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This will probably be a very unpopular post on here, but I was curious as to if others may be in a similar situation.

I love games. I love to play games. I have good sized collection of games (based on the looks I get from my wife). I also have very little time to actually play the games I have.

For each of the past 5 years or so I have asked for and received a few shiny new boardgames for Xmas. Unfortunately, some of those games are still sitting on my shelves, unplayed (and in some cases, unopened). There are, of course, a multitude of games I'd love to get for Xmas this year...but in light of the lack of gameplaying I'm actually getting to do...I have decided to not put any games on my Xmas list. It was a painful decision to make, but I think a necessary one.

Anyone else doing something similar?
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Not exactly whistle...

I understand where you are coming from though. I'm doing the BGG Secret Santa exchange but otherwise, I haven't even suggested to my husband that there is any particular game I'd like to get for Christmas. It's definitely a HUGE difference for me this year vs last year when I couldn't get games fast enough. But I'm in a similar situation to you and it's harder for me to justify acquiring more (harder but not impossible). Truth is, I have plenty and it will still take me a long while to get through what's on my shelves now. I don't feel bummed if I don't get a game for Christmas this year (except from my Secret Santa that is). We also have baby #2 coming in March so my situation, if it improves, will only do so temporarily before I'm in the thick of caring for a newborn. I commend you for being able to adjust according to your situation.
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Based upon your collection on BGG, you have a total of 38 games and 1 expansion, with 17 listed as For Trade. So your collection is actually quite small, and you shouldn't be getting looks. You also must have almost zero playtime to not be able to get to games when there are so few.

Perhaps you should make a stronger effort to sell/trade the games you don't want and thereby get rid of the looks. Plus, then you'll have room for games that may get more playtime.

I have, in fact, felt a similar feeling. I still have quite a number of games in shrink, and my wife is justifiably annoyed because I have 250-300 games. So while there are some new games I would like, I clearly don't need more at the moment. My trouble is, I don't really need anything else either. So I have great difficulty coming up with gifts I would want.
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Perhaps you could ask for time to play your games as a present?
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roseundy wrote:
Perhaps you could ask for time to play your games as a present?


THIS! This is exactly what I've been thinking about lately. I wish I could just get a commitment from people to play with me in the time I have left. Yes, that's how I look at it too. laugh It's like I'm about to be shipped off to a desert island somewhere for a few months (reference baby on the way).
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buffburgo wrote:
Unfortunately, some of those games are still sitting on my shelves, unplayed (and in some cases, unopened).


I hear what you're really asking... and yes, you can send those games to me. There's no reason you should suffer with unplayed games languishing on your shelves. You can put your conscience at ease now.
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Thunkd wrote:
buffburgo wrote:
Unfortunately, some of those games are still sitting on my shelves, unplayed (and in some cases, unopened).


I hear what you're really asking... and yes, you can send those games to me. There's no reason you should suffer with unplayed games languishing on your shelves. You can put your conscience at ease now.


You always make me laugh . You made your snake in the womb joke the other day and it killed me. I didn't have a chance to say it then but, I'm still laughing.

(At least...I think it was you. Now I'm second-guessing myself.)
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Bimm wrote:
Based upon your collection on BGG, you have a total of 38 games and 1 expansion, with 17 listed as For Trade. So your collection is actually quite small, and you shouldn't be getting looks. You also must have almost zero playtime to not be able to get to games when there are so few.

Perhaps you should make a stronger effort to sell/trade the games you don't want and thereby get rid of the looks. Plus, then you'll have room for games that may get more playtime.

I have, in fact, felt a similar feeling. I still have quite a number of games in shrink, and my wife is justifiably annoyed because I have 250-300 games. So while there are some new games I would like, I clearly don't need more at the moment. My trouble is, I don't really need anything else either. So I have great difficulty coming up with gifts I would want.


But isn't this relative to the people involved? I mean, we don't know who his regular gaming partners are or what his time commitments are. A bigger collection is harder to play but a smaller collection can be too for someone with fewer gaming partners and/or less time. Can that be remedied? Probably but it's not always that easy either.
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Bimm wrote:
Based upon your collection on BGG, you have a total of 38 games and 1 expansion, with 17 listed as For Trade. So your collection is actually quite small, and you shouldn't be getting looks. You also must have almost zero playtime to not be able to get to games when there are so few.
Perhaps you should make a stronger effort to sell/trade the games you don't want and thereby get rid of the looks. Plus, then you'll have room for games that may get more playtime.


To each his own... in the eyes of the beholder...(insert other cliches)

Agreed, my collection is "small" in comparison to many BGG'ers, but if I get to play a game once per week, it's a lot, so having a collection the size of mine is large in that respect. Before our 2 kids (going on 4yo and 10mo) we played games at least 2x per week, with another couple. So, we were pretty active in that regard. Obviously less so now. And the wifeypoo isnt all that interested in playing any more. Occasionally a game of Mr. Jack or something else when my 12yo nephew is in town. My main gaming partner (bro-in-law) also has 2 young kids, (3.5yr and 1yr) so he's got limited time too.

Could I make more time...sure...but honestly, after a long day of work, and the 2 hour dinner/bedtime routine for the kids, i'm wiped out. And weekends are usually full of family obligations and home reno project.

As for trading...yes...I could...but it's oh so hard to part with things, especially when I'm not sure I'm even done with them...or tried them...

I should probably also mention that I have devoted more free time to miniature painting, which has taken time away from gaming, at least solo gaming.
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buffburgo wrote:
but in light of the lack of gameplaying I'm actually getting to do...I have decided to not put any games on my Xmas list. […]
Anyone else doing something similar?


I'm always trying to fend off the constant stream of board games entering my house.

No, really. I do buy some, but my standard reaction when I see a new shiny game is "do I REALLY need this?" and the answer is almost always "no".
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Thunkd wrote:
buffburgo wrote:
Unfortunately, some of those games are still sitting on my shelves, unplayed (and in some cases, unopened).


I hear what you're really asking... and yes, you can send those games to me. There's no reason you should suffer with unplayed games languishing on your shelves. You can put your conscience at ease now.


You always make me laugh . You made your snake in the womb joke the other day and it killed me. I didn't have a chance to say it then but, I'm still laughing.

(At least...I think it was you. Now I'm second-guessing myself.)

Thanks! I'm tickled that there are probably people wondering what the heck a "snake in the womb" joke is.
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buffburgo wrote:
Bimm wrote:
Based upon your collection on BGG, you have a total of 38 games and 1 expansion, with 17 listed as For Trade. So your collection is actually quite small, and you shouldn't be getting looks. You also must have almost zero playtime to not be able to get to games when there are so few.
Perhaps you should make a stronger effort to sell/trade the games you don't want and thereby get rid of the looks. Plus, then you'll have room for games that may get more playtime.


To each his own... in the eyes of the beholder...(insert other cliches)

Agreed, my collection is "small" in comparison to many BGG'ers, but if I get to play a game once per week, it's a lot, so having a collection the size of mine is large in that respect. Before our 2 kids (going on 4yo and 10mo) we played games at least 2x per week, with another couple. So, we were pretty active in that regard. Obviously less so now. And the wifeypoo isnt all that interested in playing any more. Occasionally a game of Mr. Jack or something else when my 12yo nephew is in town. My main gaming partner (bro-in-law) also has 2 young kids, (3.5yr and 1yr) so he's got limited time too.

Could I make more time...sure...but honestly, after a long day of work, and the 2 hour dinner/bedtime routine for the kids, i'm wiped out. And weekends are usually full of family obligations and home reno project.

As for trading...yes...I could...but it's oh so hard to part with things, especially when I'm not sure I'm even done with them...or tried them...

I should probably also mention that I have devoted more free time to miniature painting, which has taken time away from gaming, at least solo gaming.


Well, hang in there. I didn't interpret from your post that you were giving up the hobby, just holding off on acquiring new games. Things always change and you'll likely find yourself in circumstances where you can play more again. As long as it's something you still have a desire to do, it'll be fine in the long term. I personally would not unload my collection. I am going to make 2014 the year to cull some games I now know I don't care for.

Sad thing is, I'm in the same situation and I used to live in Brooklyn, which doesn't look to be too far from where you're at (I'm also a Texan so most distances seem short to me). We could've made a new game group!! Argh!! AND my husband's family is from NJ. I might've ended up even closer if we'd decided to stay up there. Oh well.
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buffburgo wrote:
Anyone else doing something similar?

Yeah, boardgames stopped appearing under the Christmas tree a few years ago. I still buy them around Christmas time, they're just not presents anymore.
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Nothing under the three game-wise this year for us either. This is mostly because I have more than enough games (too many really at ~100) and don't want to be distracted from playing those games more when the opportunities come up.

Someone once said "the great mistake in buying games is assuming that you are also buying the time to play them". Wise words.
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I would add "and the room to store them".
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Since you have a 4yr old then I'd highly recommend putting some fun kids game (yes there are good ones that adults enjoy too!) on your wish-list and making them a part of the bedtime routine .. A nightly game or two is a wonderful bonding & childhood experience, and because they are generally only 20-30min long (at most) you can easily fit that plus storytime into an hour meeple


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Last year, our family went a little nuts with games. Everybody got a couple of things:



This year, we had a REALLY generous BGG Secret Santa:



(And there's ONE MORE that arrived later that's sitting wrapped under our tree.)

Then, this past week, I received my shipment of Kickstarter games from Indie Boards & Cards, which included Snowdonia, Coup, and 2 expansions for Flash Point: Fire Rescue, including Flash Point: Fire Rescue – Extreme Danger and Flash Point: Fire Rescue – Dangerous Waters.

We also recently purchased Carcassonne: Winter Edition because, well, it's my wife's favorite game, and this is a Christmassy version.

As a result, I find myself feeling a little overwhelmed with new games. We'll probably add a couple more this Christmas, but I've already told my wife that she can go easy on the games -- or even avoid them entirely if she wants. We certainly have a lot of new games to explore for the near future.
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I agree with the sentiment.

This year I'm actually in the opposite situation. I'm only a few years into the hobby and last year was the first time I said "I'd like some board games" to my wife. I left it open ended and did not request any specifics, she knew what I was looking for and I trust her.

(A light gamer herself) She diligently spread this information to our family, and got back "I don't want to buy him games, I don't know what to buy him online and I don't want to go into a gaming store". BGG.com did not register in their heads and might as well have been a porn site.

Disheartened, this year I listed a huge amount of games trying the throw everything at the wall to see what sticks approach. I've been completely unabashed when discussing that this, and an air compressor (I am a homeowner) is what I want. We'll see how that goes.

Most likely, next year I'll be in the same position as the OP and many others.

Minor aside: I have since had a great experience taking my grandmother-in-law into my local gaming store. She loved the staff, the layout, and enjoyed the game they practically dragged us into playing.
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Since you have a 4yr old then I'd highly recommend putting some fun kids game (yes there are good ones that adults enjoy too!) on your wish-list and making them a part of the bedtime routine .. A nightly game or two is a wonderful bonding & childhood experience, and because they are generally only 20-30min long (at most) you can easily fit that plus storytime into an hour meeple


As a matter of fact, I did include a few games for the kiddo. Monza and Busy Busy Airport. And something tells me that Santa will come through. I have been getting her to play games, and she's got a good little selection so far (Animal upon Animal, Go Away Monster, Candyland, Memory, and a few others. And she acutally requests playing on her own at times, so that's a win in my book.
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When we found ourselves with a higher "unplayed to played" ratio in our collection we purged anything that we didn't think we'd actually get on the table at a regular game day. Anything that a friend also owned, was sold as well. Made over $1,000!

Now we keep things very slim, and mostly only games that we KNOW we would bring out to play when friends came over. It's a much smaller, but quality collection. We buy maybe one or two new games a year, but only if they follow the above criteria... someone we know doesn't already own it, and we know for a fact it has a high possibility of hitting the table in any given week.
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As in all things, balance is key. If you enjoy games, whether it's collecting, playing or simply the research and purchasing of them, nobody should have to give that up. I've got 3 kids (youngest is 3) and I've made time to game. Once a week, after all the kids are in bed, me and a couple friends will get together to play a game or 2. Once a month, I host a large game night at my place. We have so much fun and that makes the work involved finding time, getting the spouse on board and preparing all completely worth it. Those nights are probably the most fun I have all week long and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

Also, with respect to games as presents, people want to get you something right? Unless you have something you'd rather get, I find nothing wrong with putting the word out that you'd really like 1 or 2 board games for the holidays.

I know a lot of folks and especially spouses look at purchases with a highly scrutinizing eye. As far as I'm concerned, you could purchase a handful of dirt for $1000 if it was in your agreed upon budget and it makes you happy. You don't even have to play with it or look at it. Maybe it makes you happy just knowing you have that dirt sitting on your shelf. You know you. Do what makes you happy and don't apologize for it.
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My family refuse to buy me any board games as presents due to the fact of my collection. I don't really mind as I get most of my board games myself, so it makes a welcome change.
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Actually this would make it my first Christmas that I'm actually expecting a board game under the Christmas tree this year since I really started getting into board games.
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Perhaps you could ask for time to play your games as a present?


THIS! This is exactly what I've been thinking about lately. I wish I could just get a commitment from people to play with me in the time I have left. Yes, that's how I look at it too. laugh It's like I'm about to be shipped off to a desert island somewhere for a few months (reference baby on the way).


This is what I have asked of my three kids. They all like different games and I really don't need a new shirt or more socks... thumbsup
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buffburgo wrote:
tankgrlnz wrote:

Since you have a 4yr old then I'd highly recommend putting some fun kids game (yes there are good ones that adults enjoy too!) on your wish-list and making them a part of the bedtime routine .. A nightly game or two is a wonderful bonding & childhood experience, and because they are generally only 20-30min long (at most) you can easily fit that plus storytime into an hour meeple


As a matter of fact, I did include a few games for the kiddo. Monza and Busy Busy Airport. And something tells me that Santa will come through. I have been getting her to play games, and she's got a good little selection so far (Animal upon Animal, Go Away Monster, Candyland, Memory, and a few others. And she acutally requests playing on her own at times, so that's a win in my book.


That's a definite win, and Monza is a great choice!
 
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