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I was browsing a bit on CSI's site and noticing that a lot of things tended to be around 25-30% off. Is that about right? What makes them a popular site to buy from? I know there's something about building up to bigger discounts in a loyalty program, or some such..

How about other online retailers, is that 25-30% off about typical?
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I think you're about right with the percentage. Most online retailers will sell for about 20% off MSRP.

I go through CSI because they are almost always competitive in price, give free shipping over $100 (I save up and order around that each time to get that), and have a reward program. I'm at level 7 now and enjoying another 3% off. I've also been very pleased that every game I get from them is undamaged and packed pretty nicely w/ lots of protection.

I also have AmazonPrime and find the online game retailers can even beat Amazon prices with free shipping.
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Recently,

Madness Comics & Games (Plano, TX) had their holiday sale that always draws in a lot of business.

Buy 2 Get 1 free. There were some exclusions like CCGs, singles, etc. But for board games, if you buy 2 $60 Board Games, you get a 3rd board game up to $60 free.

A lot of people I know jumped on the deal in fact I grabbed a couple of cheap games when I was there one evening.

A friend recently purchased almost $300 in games from them. After pricing their take home, CoolStuffInc was still $30 cheaper without the B2G1 sale. I've been using CSI for a while now and I find that I don't mind waiting the extra few days to get my games with free shipping.

So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.
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I tend to find things slightly cheaper right off the bat at miniaturemarket.com with the same free shipping at $100, but their loyalty program isn't as good. So I guess it depends on how often you plan on buying games.
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dresvin wrote:
I tend to find things slightly cheaper right off the bat at miniaturemarket.com with the same free shipping at $100, but their loyalty program isn't as good. So I guess it depends on how often you plan on buying games.

Plus 1 to this. I always check both sites and order according to final price. Miniature Market is much cheaper for sleeves, and has more component upgrades and accessories. However, in the end, I fin myself ordering from Coolstuffinc 4 to 1. Both sites offer top notch service. I have never once had an issue with either and would not hesitate doing business again with either of them.
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I've bought from both. With the loyalty program, CSI comes out ahead for me by a percent or 2 on average, but MM has a more consistent clearance section that often has one or two items that sound interesting that I'm willing to take a crack at to help get to free shipping. On the rare occasions when I absolutely must get something immediately, I'll usually go with CSI. Otherwise, I'll put in an order whenever something cool shows up on the daily sale list.
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As someone who has reached the 4% off level at CoolStuff...I've spent a LOT of money with them (well over $2,000 over the years). I've ordered from Miniature Market, Cardhaus and even Boards and Bits (before they left planet earth) and never had any issues with any of them.

The reason I shop CoolStuff primarily is the extra discount and the amazing service. I've had items on pre-order get delayed (no fault of the stores if the games aren't released on schedule). I've emailed Cory and he has (on several occasions) reconstructed my order to get items out to me while 'holding' the preorder items, contacting me once they became available and allowing me to add items get free shipping again. They are amazing to work with.

Plus I met Jerry, their CFO at Gen-Con and demoed games with him. They all seem to be great people.
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jwallerrocks wrote:
Most online retailers will sell for about 20% off MSRP

not sure about that, possibly "most" if we count them all... but the "major" (and this can be subjective) ones the "base" is 20%, ie. the grand daddy of the online board game etailers (who also has a B&M btw). Most of the "deep" discounters imho the base is 30%. For a while boards&bits had the highest discount for any Rio Grande Games (RGG) titles, I think like 38%.

of course since the SJC court ruling a few years ago making (vertical market) price fixing not automatically illegal leading the way for publishers like Mayfair to require pricing agreements, in general the most you'll see Mayfair titles (Catan brand, etc) discounted off msrp by is 20%

xpiredsodapop wrote:
So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.

also not sure about that either, depends on where you live I guess... from my experience most B&M only board game stores sell at MSRP (and there are reports of some who sell even higher). If you live near a game store that is B&M and an online discounter, like funagain, coolstuff, miniature market, thoughthammer (rip), etc then you get the best of both worlds.

shipping as mentioned may be a bigger factor for some... at one point years back I did a lot of buying from cardhaus, had the best prices for what I was shopping for, and free*** shipping... now w/out any free ship option the shipping cross country so far has more than offset the savings even during their clearance sales

*** = nothing really free of course, it is bundled into the prices
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CSI used to have a standard discount of 34%. Now it is mostly in the range 30-33%, so the prices have gone up a little. I still shop at CSI pretty much exclusively, except for occasional amazon deals, due to their loyalty program and top notch customer service.
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I also use CSI often for the same reasons as above.

Also, a couple times a game that I have ordered goes on sale the next week. When that has happened, I have just emailed CSI and they have given be a coupon voucher for the difference.

Great company!
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xpiredsodapop wrote:
So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.


This is not my experience at all. Every B&M store I've been to has sold at or near MSRP. Dominant Species for example is selling for $80 at the two B&M stores I've been too lately and this sells for $55 at CSI.
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xpiredsodapop wrote:
So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.



I would LOVE to find this B&M store! I mean, if a store is connected to internet business, then yeah, good prices. But I can't imagine a stand alone B&M store having prices like CSI.
 
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I have only found one FLGS ever that consistently offered things off MSRP percentage-wise - Black & Read in Arvada (suburb of Denver) CO. They tend to do 20% off of MSRP. When I lived in CO I bought a *lot* from them.
 
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JeffyJeff wrote:
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xpiredsodapop wrote:
So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.

also not sure about that either, depends on where you live I guess... from my experience most B&M only board game stores sell at MSRP (and there are reports of some who sell even higher). If you live near a game store that is B&M and an online discounter, like funagain, coolstuff, miniature market, thoughthammer (rip), etc then you get the best of both worlds....


I travel a lot and visit B&M often. Rarely do I find any offering more then 10% (other then 'sale items') and even that is VERY rare.

(Unless it the extremely rare B$M attached to a OLGS)
 
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I apologize, let me rephrase.

I mean that I think CSI's discounts and savings are typically more than that of a B&M store. Sorry!!! laugh
 
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My FLGS offers boardgames off at 20% so I support him with my dollar most of the time. I find that CSI has great discount and very reasonable prices for miniatures.
 
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JeffyJeff wrote:
jwallerrocks wrote:
Most online retailers will sell for about 20% off MSRP

not sure about that, possibly "most" if we count them all... but the "major" (and this can be subjective) ones the "base" is 20%, ie. the grand daddy of the online board game etailers (who also has a B&M btw). Most of the "deep" discounters imho the base is 30%. For a while boards&bits had the highest discount for any Rio Grande Games (RGG) titles, I think like 38%.

of course since the SJC court ruling a few years ago making (vertical market) price fixing not automatically illegal leading the way for publishers like Mayfair to require pricing agreements, in general the most you'll see Mayfair titles (Catan brand, etc) discounted off msrp by is 20%

xpiredsodapop wrote:
So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.

also not sure about that either, depends on where you live I guess... from my experience most B&M only board game stores sell at MSRP (and there are reports of some who sell even higher). If you live near a game store that is B&M and an online discounter, like funagain, coolstuff, miniature market, thoughthammer (rip), etc then you get the best of both worlds.

shipping as mentioned may be a bigger factor for some... at one point years back I did a lot of buying from cardhaus, had the best prices for what I was shopping for, and free*** shipping... now w/out any free ship option the shipping cross country so far has more than offset the savings even during their clearance sales

*** = nothing really free of course, it is bundled into the prices


Is there a different cardhaus website than http://www.cardhaus.com (newer updated). I used to order from them quite a bit but recently have been buying from Amazon.de to purchase games I worried would sell out before they hit the US shores. I went to their site today and it looks like all the titles are from at least a year ago. I feel like I am just going to the wrong site but I can't find anything else?
 
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johnnyspys wrote:
JeffyJeff wrote:
jwallerrocks wrote:
Most online retailers will sell for about 20% off MSRP

not sure about that, possibly "most" if we count them all... but the "major" (and this can be subjective) ones the "base" is 20%, ie. the grand daddy of the online board game etailers (who also has a B&M btw). Most of the "deep" discounters imho the base is 30%. For a while boards&bits had the highest discount for any Rio Grande Games (RGG) titles, I think like 38%.

of course since the SJC court ruling a few years ago making (vertical market) price fixing not automatically illegal leading the way for publishers like Mayfair to require pricing agreements, in general the most you'll see Mayfair titles (Catan brand, etc) discounted off msrp by is 20%

xpiredsodapop wrote:
So I think CSI's prices a quite typical compared to a B&M store.
also not sure about that either, depends on where you live I guess... from my experience most B&M only board game stores sell at MSRP (and there are reports of some who sell even higher). If you live near a game store that is B&M and an online discounter, like funagain, coolstuff, miniature market, thoughthammer (rip), etc then you get the best of both worlds.

shipping as mentioned may be a bigger factor for some... at one point years back I did a lot of buying from cardhaus, had the best prices for what I was shopping for, and free*** shipping... now w/out any free ship option the shipping cross country so far has more than offset the savings even during their clearance sales

*** = nothing really free of course, it is bundled into the prices


Is there a different cardhaus website than http://www.cardhaus.com (newer updated). I used to order from them quite a bit but recently have been buying from Amazon.de to purchase games I worried would sell out before they hit the US shores. I went to their site today and it looks like all the titles are from at least a year ago. I feel like I am just going to the wrong site but I can't find anything else?

they redid their website a while back... apparently never changing the landing page for cardhaus.com to redirect or at least have a message/link... the new one is

www.boardgamehaus.com

looks like they also have free shipping again, but at $150+ orders... the days of me ordering $150+ are long over
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MilesF wrote:
I was browsing a bit on CSI's site and noticing that a lot of things tended to be around 25-30% off. Is that about right? What makes them a popular site to buy from? I know there's something about building up to bigger discounts in a loyalty program, or some such..

How about other online retailers, is that 25-30% off about typical?


A direct answer: Expect a minimum of 30%. Often it 35%. Occasionally (on daily specials and such) you'll see 50%.

20% IS NOT typical. 30%+ is typical. CSI and MM are 33%+
20% is for suckers.

Here's the mindblow for you: CSI is a brick and mortar retailer that also happens to have a massive online business. 3 stores and counting....

Now that's a business model.

Ooops - Four locations:
http://www.coolstuffgames.com/
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fubar awol wrote:
Here's the mindblow for you: CSI is a brick and mortar retailer that also happens to have a massive online business. 3 stores and counting....

4 actually... they opened one in jacksonville last year... others are 2 in orlando area, and 1 in south florida

but here's a mind blow for you....

funagain
(board)gamehaus
miniature market
thoughthammer (rip)

etc etc are also online and brick and mortar. the B&M I think is important as they get the highest mark up on the ccg and mini's from the college kids (csi kept the winter park store open after opening 2nd orlando area location and moving warehouse to it as well because it's close to UCF, and the jacksonville store I believe they opened up near the university up there).
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JeffyJeff wrote:
they redid their website a while back... apparently never changing the landing page for cardhaus.com to redirect or at least have a message/link... the new one is

www.boardgamehaus.com

looks like they also have free shipping again, but at $150+ orders... the days of me ordering $150+ are long over


Your link just takes me back to http://www.cardhaus.com/boardgames_info which as noted seems months out of date. I remember them launching BoardGameHaus as a separate site a while back but I also thought they went back to one site. Either way, I haven't visited in long enough that I can't tell whether this is just a temporarily broken website (showing an old backup or something) or a sign of another game store going under.

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