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I have a shelf at home that I want to put in front of an old, never-to-be-used again fireplace (the insert was even removed).

However the bricks in front are uneven and has a general downward slope, causing the shelf to tip similarly to an uneven table.

Is there anything I can put down on the brick to counteract this? Or is there something that looks better than just a wad of paper or cardboard placed under one corner?

After I solve this I need to find a way to anchor it as it will contain books, and our little one is becoming more mobile.

EDIT: Just FYI I don't have my own access to band-saws or other wood working tools. It would take me some effort to do something like that.
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You can buy shims at any home improvement type store.

They are wedges of wood in varying sizes. Something like 6" long, 2" wide, but at one end .25" thick, the other end tapered to a point.

Cutting them to various sizes and angles would do what you need with a minimum of 'handywork'.

They can be set in place then painted or finished as needed if they remain visible.

Edit: Just like the ones Isaac has shown as I was typing.
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I honestly did not know those existed. That's great! Thanks!
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EDIT: What the heck? Did something change in the BGG code?

I think the embedded parentheses are breaking it.
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ImaginaryRoot wrote:
Or is there something that looks better than just a wad of paper or cardboard placed under one corner?

I was going to suggest a wad of duct tape; the silvery finish really adds a touch of class, and it can be an interesting conversation piece. "Oh, that? Yes, that's a moon rock I had custom cut & polished for this installation."
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ImaginaryRoot wrote:


After I solve this I need to find a way to anchor it as it will contain books, and our little one is becoming more mobile.


What's behind the shelf (various materials - e.g. stone, brick, wood, etc.)?

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matthew.marquand wrote:
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After I solve this I need to find a way to anchor it as it will contain books, and our little one is becoming more mobile.


What's behind the shelf (various materials - e.g. stone, brick, wood, etc.)?



Behind the shelf is more brick, presumably, as it is part of the fireplace/chimney. I think it is covered in a wood panel of some sort, though that part is escaping me at the moment.
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There are plastic shims that are even easier to use. You put them in as far as you need and then just bend up and they break off cleanly.
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You can get masonry anchors but you'll need to be able to drill into the brick to have a hole for the anchor. You then attach the shelf to this anchor.

Brick is, relatively speaking, easy to drill but a small masonry bit is cheap to acquire and a regular drill will work fine.

However, this will do permanent "damage" to your fireplace front so I'm not sure that's desirable. Depending on where you put the anchors, you might be able to "hide" them in a grout line and then when/if you remove them, you can attempt to patch/refill the damage.

Of course, I have no idea what the condition of the brick is and drilling into it may just cause it to come tumbling down into your living room. If there's wood there, and you're willing to screw anchors into it, then you're cooking with gas, so to speak.

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matthew.marquand wrote:
You can get masonry anchors but you'll need to be able to drill into the brick to have a hole for the anchor. You then attach the shelf to this anchor.

Brick is, relatively speaking, easy to drill but a small masonry bit is cheap to acquire and a regular drill will work fine.

However, this will do permanent "damage" to your fireplace front so I'm not sure that's desirable. Depending on where you put the anchors, you might be able to "hide" them in a grout line and then when/if you remove them, you can attempt to patch/refill the damage.





We are currently renting so long term isn't something on our minds currently The landlord has expressed wanting to change that area a bit now that the fireplace is out of commission.

Would anchoring the shelf to the floor work? My thought being that with the fireplace permanently disabled, they may lay carpet down in front of it (after we are gone) instead in an effort to blend it into the living room better.
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After I solve this I need to find a way to anchor it as it will contain books, and our little one is becoming more mobile.
If you've ever bought furniture from Ikea then you will have undoubtedly familiarized yourself with the little straps that can help you with this. They are a small nylon strap that screws into the top of the back of the shelf on one end and into the wall on the other end, so that toddlers who attempt to climb don't get crushed by tipped-over furniture. If you don't have any from Ikea you can buy them at Amazon as well.

The only niggling part might be finding a spot in the brick to put the other end of the nylon strap. One way would be to drill a hole in the brick mortar (between bricks) for a plastic wall anchor & put the screw into that. Easier than attempting to put a screw through brick.

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Can the Ikea strap be screwed into the floor behind the shelf? It would provide *some* tipping stability I'd think.
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matthew.marquand wrote:
Can the Ikea strap be screwed into the floor behind the shelf? It would provide *some* tipping stability I'd think.


I could always anchor it in multiple places if needed. The shelf is hardwood with a thick frame, allowing for some bigger-than-normal screws for anchoring.
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ImaginaryRoot wrote:
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Can the Ikea strap be screwed into the floor behind the shelf? It would provide *some* tipping stability I'd think.


I could always anchor it in multiple places if needed. The shelf is hardwood with a thick frame, allowing for some bigger-than-normal screws for anchoring.


Is there a mantle that overhangs a bit? You could screw into the bottom of that for one end of the anchor, thereby keeping the hole relatively hidden.

Also, I'm in Brighton and have a moderately well-provisioned workshop, so if you need to borrow anything, send me a PM.
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There are plastic shims that are even easier to use. You put them in as far as you need and then just bend up and they break off cleanly.

The wooden ones will do that, too. Note the scores in the picture above; those are places where they break easily. You can also get some with less of a wedge to them, without the scores, which break even more easily.
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rinelk wrote:
ImaginaryRoot wrote:
matthew.marquand wrote:
Can the Ikea strap be screwed into the floor behind the shelf? It would provide *some* tipping stability I'd think.


I could always anchor it in multiple places if needed. The shelf is hardwood with a thick frame, allowing for some bigger-than-normal screws for anchoring.


Is there a mantle that overhangs a bit? You could screw into the bottom of that for one end of the anchor, thereby keeping the hole relatively hidden.

Also, I'm in Brighton and have a moderately well-provisioned workshop, so if you need to borrow anything, send me a PM.


Yes there is a mantle. The shelf is a bit lower than the mantle, though, so I don't know how well I could hide an anchor going that high... but it's definitely a possibility.

And thanks for the offer of your workshop. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I need anything!
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I think I would first install a hardwood veneered plywood panel to cover the front of the fireplace, shimming it so it is plumb. Then you can simply add the shelf to the front of the plywood.
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LennyS wrote:
I think I would first install a hardwood veneered plywood panel to cover the front of the fireplace, shimming it so it is plumb. Then you can simply add the shelf to the front of the plywood.


Fly Lenny out and make him do it.
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LennyS wrote:
I think I would first install a hardwood veneered plywood panel to cover the front of the fireplace, shimming it so it is plumb. Then you can simply add the shelf to the front of the plywood.


But I think the problem is the hearth is not square with the fireplace front causing the free standing shelf to lean away from the fireplace. The shims were for the front of the shelf (on top of the hearth) to square it to the fireplace front.

Maybe I completely misread the post.
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matthew.marquand wrote:
LennyS wrote:
I think I would first install a hardwood veneered plywood panel to cover the front of the fireplace, shimming it so it is plumb. Then you can simply add the shelf to the front of the plywood.


But I think the problem is the hearth is not square with the fireplace front causing the free standing shelf to lean away from the fireplace. The shims were for the front of the shelf (on top of the hearth) to square it to the fireplace front.

Maybe I completely misread the post.


No I have a free-standing bookshelf I want to put in front of the fireplace, so the shims will help keep it level, with anchor points to be determined so a soon-to-be-mobile child won't tip it over.
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ImaginaryRoot wrote:
matthew.marquand wrote:
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I think I would first install a hardwood veneered plywood panel to cover the front of the fireplace, shimming it so it is plumb. Then you can simply add the shelf to the front of the plywood.


But I think the problem is the hearth is not square with the fireplace front causing the free standing shelf to lean away from the fireplace. The shims were for the front of the shelf (on top of the hearth) to square it to the fireplace front.

Maybe I completely misread the post.


No I have a free-standing bookshelf I want to put in front of the fireplace, so the shims will help keep it level, with anchor points to be determined so a soon-to-be-mobile child won't tip it over.


Ooh, I have another idea--attach one anchor to the floor in the middle of the room, and the other to the child. Saves you childproofing the rest of the house!
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ImaginaryRoot wrote:
matthew.marquand wrote:
LennyS wrote:
I think I would first install a hardwood veneered plywood panel to cover the front of the fireplace, shimming it so it is plumb. Then you can simply add the shelf to the front of the plywood.


But I think the problem is the hearth is not square with the fireplace front causing the free standing shelf to lean away from the fireplace. The shims were for the front of the shelf (on top of the hearth) to square it to the fireplace front.

Maybe I completely misread the post.


No I have a free-standing bookshelf I want to put in front of the fireplace, so the shims will help keep it level, with anchor points to be determined so a soon-to-be-mobile child won't tip it over.


I didn't read it incorrectly! Yes!!

It's a bit hard to tell what Lenny was trying to accomplish but it feels like it doesn't address your basic issue. Or...I'm completely misunderstanding Lenny!
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matthew.marquand wrote:
It's a bit hard to tell what Lenny was trying to accomplish but it feels like it doesn't address your basic issue. Or...I'm completely misunderstanding Lenny!

No worries...I misunderstand him all the time.
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roseundy wrote:
matthew.marquand wrote:
It's a bit hard to tell what Lenny was trying to accomplish but it feels like it doesn't address your basic issue. Or...I'm completely misunderstanding Lenny!

No worries...I misunderstand him all the time.


I think this just further solidifies my belief that Lenny is misunderstood.

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