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So we have now hit 2014 and there appears to be no expansions coming for Battle Cry. I get that the the economics of keeping a business solvent outweighs the yearnings of the fans, but is there not a way to at least expand the number of scenarios and add rules for the components that are already available? Specifically, I am thinking of the game Mice and Mystics, and the scenarios that you can purchase for a small fee and download online. Could not the same thing be done for Battle Cry? In the past Mr Borg has inferred that there are already a number of scenarios already developed. Perhaps a downloadable packet for each year(1862, 63, etc.)? I know that WotC has had problems with piracy in the past, but it seems to me that the unique nature of this situation would make the opportunity for profit a more realistic possibility.

This is not a Rant, Demand, or meant to be negative in any way. It is simply a question/suggestion that may simultaneously appease the fans and the bean counters.

Just a thought. . .

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They should make a campaign book similar to the Memoir 44 campaign book.
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My impression is that Richard is ready to publish if the publishers are ready to print.
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I think most of the problems with Battle Cry revolve around the publisher.
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kentreuber wrote:
My impression is that Richard is ready to publish if the publishers are ready to print.
And I think he has said that if BC sells "enough" then that's when we'll see expansions.
What is "enough" I have no idea.

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graydo wrote:
I think most of the problems with Battle Cry revolve around the publisher.


I would place a large bet on that being very true.
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so would GMT do a C&C Civil War with blocks?
Seems crazy, but what the hey.

In terms of extra scenarios
http://www.angelfire.com/games2/battlecry/scenes.html
http://www.thewargamer.com/BattleCry/sc_other.html

and the VASSAL module has a bunch as well.

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I think Hasbro has largely pulled out of the plastic miniatures market, probably for economic reasons. They have done much less of that recently than in years past.

Now, for a Battle Cry expansion they wouldn't have to necessarily include any more plastic pieces, it could be just a book. But I suspect that doesn't fit into their usual marketing strategies which is geared towards mass market retailers, not hobby specialist stores.

I was really hoping they'd come out with something for the 150th anniversary of the key 1863 battles. Now that that has passed I'm beginning to think we've seen all the Battle Cry we're going to see.

Maybe Hasbro would let Borg publish the scenarios through MMP or GMT or someone else.
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A downloadable PDF with more scenarios and/or a campaign would be pretty cheap to do IMHO. Sure, folks will "cheat" and just print out a copy that their buddy downloaded and paid for...but let's face it...no printing cost, no binding cost, no storage or shipping cost...seems like a great idea to me...and I'd actually pay for the darn thing meeple
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I'd take any of the above.
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C'mon guys, they're done with Battlecry. It's been out for well over a decade and there are C&C games out the wazoo at this point.

Start making scenarios and post them here. They will get played.
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C'mon guys, they're done with Battlecry. It's been out for well over a decade and there are C&C games out the wazoo at this point.

Start making scenarios and post them here. They will get played.


True . . . but supposedly Mr. Borg as a bunch of new scenarios and Big Battle Cry Rules ready to go, just waiting for a publisher . . . we would really like to see them . . .
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There is nothing stopping Mr. Borg from posting a few scenarios here as well.
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Cracky wrote:
There is nothing stopping Mr. Borg from posting a few scenarios here as well.


except maybe a few contractual clauses..
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graydo wrote:
I think most of the problems with Battle Cry revolve around the publisher.


But it's also seen by many as the most simplistic set from the C&C stable. Superb presentation but it hasn't generated fan support i.e. scenarios that C&C:A and Memoir '44 have and C&C:N is beginning to.

Maybe Hasbro are aware of this and reluctant to further grow / invest?
 
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Achtung_Panzer10 wrote:
graydo wrote:
I think most of the problems with Battle Cry revolve around the publisher.


But it's also seen by many as the most simplistic set from the C&C stable. Superb presentation but it hasn't generated fan support i.e. scenarios that C&C:A and Memoir '44 have and C&C:N is beginning to.

Maybe Hasbro are aware of this and reluctant to further grow / invest?


Or Hasbro is the reason it is so simplistic. But actually Memoir '44 is even more simplistic.
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With the popularity (and success) of Kickstarter, it would seem a natural option to consider (by the publisher, or whoever has the rights to do so). A project proposal for a booklet (and/or compoments) for additional scenarios, Big Battle Cry, etc. would be a relatively painless way to gauge the interest (and $ potential). Perhaps someone (Mr. Borg?) in a position of leverage should look into this option . . .
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graydo wrote:
Achtung_Panzer10 wrote:
graydo wrote:
I think most of the problems with Battle Cry revolve around the publisher.


But it's also seen by many as the most simplistic set from the C&C stable. Superb presentation but it hasn't generated fan support i.e. scenarios that C&C:A and Memoir '44 have and C&C:N is beginning to.

Maybe Hasbro are aware of this and reluctant to further grow / invest?


But actually Memoir '44 is even more simplistic.


Base game yes, but the expansions add rule complexity with new units, nations, terrain, objectives, weapons and even weather.
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Achtung_Panzer10 wrote:
graydo wrote:
Achtung_Panzer10 wrote:
graydo wrote:
I think most of the problems with Battle Cry revolve around the publisher.


But it's also seen by many as the most simplistic set from the C&C stable. Superb presentation but it hasn't generated fan support i.e. scenarios that C&C:A and Memoir '44 have and C&C:N is beginning to.

Maybe Hasbro are aware of this and reluctant to further grow / invest?


But actually Memoir '44 is even more simplistic.


Base game yes, but the expansions add rule complexity with new units, nations, terrain, objectives, weapons and even weather.


Even then I'd still say Battle Cry has more simulation value, albeit very limited.

Memoir is a fun game.
 
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RVaughnSr wrote:
With the popularity (and success) of Kickstarter, it would seem a natural option to consider (by the publisher, or whoever has the rights to do so). A project proposal for a booklet (and/or compoments) for additional scenarios, Big Battle Cry, etc. would be a relatively painless way to gauge the interest (and $ potential). Perhaps someone (Mr. Borg?) in a position of leverage should look into this option . . .


In addition (and assuming it isn't blocked by legal issues), I'd suggest releasing a free "teaser" (a couple of 1863-1865 scenarios, or the Big Battle Cry rules with only one scenario and none of the new cards) might be enough to gin up some interest, remind people the game is out there.
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Achtung_Panzer10 wrote:


Base game yes, but the expansions add rule complexity with new units, nations, terrain, objectives, weapons and even weather.


new nations?

I have to say I think a Zulu expansion would be cool, but I don't think Hasbro has it in them. On the plus side, they have 15 years to prepare for the 150th anniversary.. whistle

As a by the by, this year is 100 years since the start of WW1 (the Great War), and I have this idea that a C&C WW1 game could work out on a tactical scale. MGs as artillery, Infantry, Gas cards, attached specialists, entrenchments and wire.
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Minedog3 wrote:
As a by the by, this year is 100 years since the start of WW1 (the Great War), and I have this idea that a C&C WW1 game could work out on a tactical scale. MGs as artillery, Infantry, Gas cards, attached specialists, entrenchments and wire.


Have you seen Dire Heroes - a fan-produced WW1 version of Memoir '44?

http://www.magcloud.com/browse/Issue/51283
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Achtung_Panzer10 wrote:

Have you seen Dire Heroes - a fan-produced WW1 version of Memoir '44?

http://www.magcloud.com/browse/Issue/51283


I have, but don't own M44, and didn't much like M44. Guess I was looking for more a BC version. Battalion level sort of thing.
 
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