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Eric Etkin
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Oh gurus of DIY - I'm in the middle of prototyping a new game and I'm considering going with either round (or maybe hex) 1" (or maybe 1.5") tokens.

Ideally, I'd like something I can print out on an 8'5 x 11 and punch/cut or else some other method that involves getting some inexpensive, but nice looking pieces in small batches.

Do they make punch tools for this kind of stuff? What about a company like Game Crafter.

I'm mainly trying to save myself the tedium of cutting all of these things by hand. Square tokens I can do with a paper cutter all day... but these... gulp

Help me (OT) Obi Wan...
 
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Yourself:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/507240/making-circular-token...

Other companies:
http://printplaygames.com/

(disclaimer: I run Print & Play)
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I use something like this (they come in various sizes):

http://www.amazon.com/EK-tools-Circle-Punch-1-Inch/dp/B00C90...

To go through a mounted counter, I employ mine with a couple blocks of wood and a hammer.
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Thanks Andrew - I may ping you if this gets to the point where I need review copies made.

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I use something like this (they come in various sizes):

http://www.amazon.com/EK-tools-Circle-Punch-1-Inch/dp/B00C90...

To go through a mounted counter, I employ mine with a couple blocks of wood and a hammer.

There seems to be a HUGE gap between the $150 Arch Punches and the link above ($10... that I can handle). My concern is I'd want these on lite chipboard.

Are you saying you're still using that $10 punch and just forcing the punch with hammer technique? And... it doesn't break? How clean is the cut?
 
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When I made myself ~50 thick card hexagons I drew them myself by drawing a triangular grid on the card in pencil (ruler and set square) and then just cut them out with a craft knife. Didn't take that long.
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That EK punch will probably be able to do card stock, but very unlikely that it can do chipboard.

How about a $20 arch punch?
http://www.amazon.com/General-Tools-1271M-1-Inch-Punch/dp/B0...
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MOTHDevil wrote:
Thanks Andrew - I may ping you if this gets to the point where I need review copies made.

rshipley wrote:
I use something like this (they come in various sizes):

http://www.amazon.com/EK-tools-Circle-Punch-1-Inch/dp/B00C90...

To go through a mounted counter, I employ mine with a couple blocks of wood and a hammer.

There seems to be a HUGE gap between the $150 Arch Punches and the link above ($10... that I can handle). My concern is I'd want these on lite chipboard.

Are you saying you're still using that $10 punch and just forcing the punch with hammer technique? And... it doesn't break? How clean is the cut?

That isn't the exact one that I have, but I've made a few hundred punches with mine and the cuts are still pretty clean. I'm using mat board, which it a bit easier to cut than chipboard.

I might try one of the $20-$30 arch punches on Amazon if I do another big project.
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lankyb wrote:
That EK punch will probably be able to do card stock, but very unlikely that it can do chipboard.

How about a $20 arch punch?
http://www.amazon.com/General-Tools-1271M-1-Inch-Punch/dp/B0...

Mmm... Yeah, I saw that. Tempting, though I live in an upstairs apartment, so whacking away at stuff with nothing other than a kitchen table... I dunno...

Are arch punches a really clean cut? If so, it's tempting... wondering if my local Homelowpoes will have them. I'd love to bang these out tomorrow.

To be fair... I'm not (at the moment) dealing with proper chipboard. It's that stuff they're calling chipboard that you get for scrapbooking. It's pretty light stuff... Maybe two cereal boxes thick.
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MOTHDevil wrote:
Are arch punches a really clean cut?
Yes, they are. Honestly, I wouldn't use anything else.
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Mmm... clean cut tokens. No scruffy tokens here.

Ok... I'm sold on the Arch. Now the trick is finding one local and in 1.5" flavor. Not optimistic about that...
 
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I'll sometimes use craft punches on label paper to cut circular stickers, and then stick those onto wooden discs. Proper painted wood feels best, but you can also get laser-cut ply or MDF circles pretty cheaply in a variety of sizes from craft shops or online.

(Don't get me wrong, arch punches are awesome, but not always the most practical or the nicest solution.)

If you go down the hexagon route, lay them out with a triangular gap between each three hexagons - like that you can make long cuts without having to stop the cut to avoid going through another hexagon. Like the top one on this page:
gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/tess/hextri.htm
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http://www2.fiskars.com/Crafting/Products/Squeeze-Punches/He...

I've seen these in Hobby Lobby but have no experience using them.
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kjamma4 wrote:
http://www2.fiskars.com/Crafting/Products/Squeeze-Punches/He...

I've seen these in Hobby Lobby but have no experience using them.

These are basically the same punch as the regular lever craft punches, just with a different mechanism to close the jaws. Similarly, they're not going to go through anything thicker than regular cardstock. I have some 400gsm card here, some of my lever craft punches can cut it, others get half-way and fail - I think it depends on the size of the cut, it's always the larger ones which fail.

(Arch punches, naturally, pass through it with no problems whatsoever.)
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MOTHDevil wrote:

Oh gurus of DIY - I'm in the middle of prototyping a new game and I'm considering going with either round (or maybe hex) 1" (or maybe 1.5") tokens.

Ideally, I'd like something I can print out on an 8'5 x 11 and punch/cut or else some other method that involves getting some inexpensive, but nice looking pieces in small batches.

Do they make punch tools for this kind of stuff? What about a company like Game Crafter.

I'm mainly trying to save myself the tedium of cutting all of these things by hand. Square tokens I can do with a paper cutter all day... but these... gulp

Help me (OT) Obi Wan...

I purchased 2 punches when I did my Adv. Civ remake from Brettuns Village: http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/tools/tools.html

Prices are good, tool quality is excellent. You will also need to get the correct type of hammer to hit the punch with and a surface to punch against. I used an old plastic (about 1/2" thick) cutting board that worked great. Perfectly round tokens that are as good/better than something die cut.

On a personal note: don't buy cheap tools. You can get some hollow type ones but in the long run you'll be unhappy. These will last you forever.
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Kactus04 wrote:
When I made myself ~50 thick card hexagons I drew them myself by drawing a triangular grid on the card in pencil (ruler and set square) and then just cut them out with a craft knife. Didn't take that long.

Cutting hexagons by yourself with an utility knife is not so painfull if they are laid out correctly.

Good example, easy to cut :



Bad example, a pain to cut :



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courtjus wrote:
Cutting hexagons by yourself with an utility knife is not so painfull if they are laid out correctly.

Good example, easy to cut :



It'd be even better if you offset the hexes every other row so you could make continuous cuts in every direction.
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That's what I was thinking too, Meaker, but once you cut them into strips, it doesn't matter so much. This just forces you to cut the strips in one way.

It would only help if you score before you cut.
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Update:

So I picked up one of these at a local craft store:

http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Squeeze-Punch-Large-Circle/dp/....5

For proof-of-concept, simply using some round paper tokens is working fine.

For my next step, rather than go the arch punch route, I'm considering buying a bunch of 1.5" wood tokens and instead cutting out some circular labels with my squeeze punch.

http://www.craftparts.com/112-wood-circle-disc-p-1873.html

I seem to recall seeing "seconds" in bulk somewhere. I'd need 48 or so per game, so I'd like to by a large bunch cheap. Not too concerned about appearance, since they're getting labels across the entire front and back.
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http://caseyswood.com/

And if you are really doing a bunch, I would recommend getting pre cut circular label sheets - will be way easier and cheaper.
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Howitzer_120mm wrote:
And if you are really doing a bunch, I would recommend getting pre cut circular label sheets - will be way easier and cheaper.

Thanks! Is there anything in the 1.5" size that has a template? I'm doing these layouts at 450 DPI in photoshop, so I'd need a template that is both compatible and scalable. My tolerances are also pretty tight, so if that's an issue with home printers, I might need to hand cut these things...
 
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I recommend the 1.2" circular template on my own site for that size disc:
http://www.printplaygames.com/product/12%C2%94-wood-disc
http://www.printplaygames.com/product/standard-size-sticker-...

I can print within 1-2mm. Unless your printer is really off, you should be able to send a few sheets through, and then adjust the entire page up or down as needed (based on the first two pages) and then print it and it should be pretty spot on.
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Howitzer_120mm wrote:
I recommend the 1.2" circular template on my own site for that size disc:
http://www.printplaygames.com/product/12%C2%94-wood-disc
http://www.printplaygames.com/product/standard-size-sticker-...

I can print within 1-2mm. Unless your printer is really off, you should be able to send a few sheets through, and then adjust the entire page up or down as needed (based on the first two pages) and then print it and it should be pretty spot on.

Thanks, Andrew!
 
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I'm unsure if this is what you're looking for, but it is an option if you require hexes that can offer you some level of rigidity and inter-locking for your game. It's a PDF solution that offers constructible, modular, linkable, and stackable hex tiles. It was designed using Heroscape as a model, but can be adapted to your liking.

A gallery demonstrating its use: http://papersmithforge.imgur.com/

Website with the description and purchase links: http://papersmithforge.xtreemhost.com/

You can of course draw on these with a vector program (or PDF editor) and print out/make as many as you like, they require no glue. Built entirely using cuts, scores, and folds.
 
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