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Subject: League rules - what is your opinion on league points for last place? rss

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Hi, everyone! While I wait for the videos to compile, I thought I'd get your collective opinion on an aspect of the league rules for Slaughterball.

League games can include 2, 3, or 4 teams. Currently, you earn 1 league point for each team you defeat, thus the following for a 4-team game:

4th place = 0 points league points
3rd place = 1 point
2nd place = 2 points
1st place = 3 points

This gives coaches incentives to play 4-team league games.

Your league points determine your rank in the league.

However, do you think the 0 points for last place will discourage weak teams from showing up for a league game? "I'm going to lose anyway so why should I show up? I'm going to get 0 league points either way."

What is your opinion? Would it be better if each coach earned 1 league point + 1 point for each team they defeat, thus:

4th place = 1 point
3rd place = 2 points
2nd place = 3 points
1st place = 4 points

Thanks!
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ErikFrog wrote:
However, do you think the 0 points for last place will discourage weak teams from showing up for a league game? "I'm going to lose anyway so why should I show up? I'm going to get 0 league points either way."
Or is it worse to have people show up simply to get their 1 point, and then proceed to blow off the game, or purposefully play poorly or play kingmaker, or just get up and leave halfway through knowing they at least get that 1 point.

So last place getting zero does seem harsh, but just handing out 1-point awards for last place invites its own set of possible annoyances.

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Zero points for last place is ok, if you do not need those points to purchase stuff like upgrades. If those points are also like a currency, it would be very harsh to not only lose the game but also being deprived of the feeling of progress.

But on the other hand, I think it is important to give teams some kind of "equalizer", so no coach will ever perceive an upcoming game as a sure defeat. It is a nightmare for balancing purposes, but feels like a necessity to me to make every coach turn up for a game, instead of feeling like nothing more than cannon fodder.
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Oh, I should mention the monetary rewards:

4th place = $100,000
3rd place = $200,000
2nd place = $300,000
1st place = $400,000

Money is used to improve athletes, bid on mavericks, and hire support staff.
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ErikFrog wrote:
Oh, I should mention the monetary rewards:

4th place = $100,000
3rd place = $200,000
2nd place = $300,000
1st place = $400,000

Money is used to improve athletes, bid on mavericks, and hire support staff.
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That raises another question If my math is correct and I finish every game of a league in second place with leagues lasting for 10 games, I would only be able to afford a new player right before the final match of the league. Do you lose players frequently in a league? Or is it even possible for one of your athletes to die, instead of being just injured?
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To give best answer maybe understanding what league placement does?

If I'm 4 out of 4, what penalties are involved potentially?

Can I get some sort of underdog (DreadBall term) bonus for being lowest placed team if I face off against more powerful teams? Maybe not a leveling the playing field thing but possibly a bonus to something (payout from under the table betting to get more resources because I beat the odds?).

I'm not in favor or against any specific penalty/bonus, just curious what league standing does.

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