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Tim Pitsch
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Is there an updated Ship Stats vs Points spreadsheet? I have the one up till wave 2, but would like to know if someone has or knows where to find one up to wave 3.
 
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Robert M.
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Wave 3 fractured it, Imperial Aces jumped up and down on the cracks, and Wave 4 broke right through. FFG may still have some formula for initial ship point costs, but from our end there's no way to see it.
 
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hmmm, I was told the only one ship in wave 3 didnt work, Ten Numb, but the others fit.
 
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pitsch911 wrote:
hmmm, I was told the only one ship in wave 3 didnt work, Ten Numb, but the others fit.

The Omicron Group Pilot is 14 points cheaper than it should be; the Rebel Operative is 12 points more expensive than it should be; and Blue Squadron is 4 or 5 points too cheap. The TIE Bomber is the only Wave 3 ship whose base stats are even close, but even that's about 1 point too cheap.
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Sometime reality doesn't fit the point calculation system. I worked as playtester for a longer period of time some years ago. Anyway, I played only some games of X-wing. I liked the new models, but what I read hear makes me fear that X-wing will go down the sad road of powercreap. Is it that way?

Thanks.
 
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Aselan wrote:
Sometime reality doesn't fit the point calculation system. I worked as playtester for a longer period of time some years ago. Anyway, I played only some games of X-wing. I liked the new models, but what I read hear makes me fear that X-wing will go down the sad road of powercreap. Is it that way?

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Not yet, but some cards and ships are known to be very strong (Push the Limit, the Falcon). If these had been in the first wave, we would complain about power decline, I guess.
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Thamos von Nostria wrote:
Aselan wrote:
Sometime reality doesn't fit the point calculation system. I worked as playtester for a longer period of time some years ago. Anyway, I played only some games of X-wing. I liked the new models, but what I read hear makes me fear that X-wing will go down the sad road of powercreap. Is it that way?

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Not yet, but some cards and ships are known to be very strong (Push the Limit, the Falcon). If these had been in the first wave, we would complain about power decline, I guess.

Also, three of the Wave 1 ships are still considered strong, and frequently appear in competitive lists.
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So it could be considered a general balance issue? :-)

 
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Aselan wrote:
So it could be considered a general balance issue? :-)

No, I don't think it's a balance issue. I think the designers let go of the idea of a rigid cost structure at the right time, and for the right reasons--namely, that the rigid costing structure had produced at least one clear failure in the TIE Advanced, arguably overestimated the value of the A-wing, didn't provide flexibility in costing pilot abilities, and failed to account for the additional difficulties and risks of maneuvering Large ships.
 
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