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In a game such as this, is there a reasonable number of men, cavalry and troops that we could assign to 1 CU? I understand abstract nature of the combat values but can we infer?

As a bit of fun I am looking at resolving the battle using the Great Battles of History - SPQR system.

Crazy yes?
Fun? - Sure.
I'll of course have to factor in the battle cards that would be eligible, and what impact they might have, impact of losses etc.

So as a mental exercise the starting point I have is :
What is the body of one CU?
I can then proportion Cav/missile/skirmisher/foot(Heavy, light) types based on Army mix standards of the time.
 
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I would say 1 CU equals 5000 men.
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I believe some have stated that a CU represent a legion and have cited the number 5,000, the average number per legion, as the number of troops per CU. While I personally think it should be a tad higher (since the present calculation would limit all moving armies to 50,000), 5,000 per CU is a reasonable number to go by.
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hipshot wrote:
As a bit of fun I am looking at resolving the battle using the Great Battles of History - SPQR system.

Great idea btw.
 
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Some early thinking on conversions.
I took some battles and counted up Str Pts and workedout what % ages were of each main unit type.
Other bits:

Need to allow for Battle Card benefit/advantage
Leaders
Losses on retreat
a dozen other details

I'll be writing about this here:
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MD1616 wrote:
I believe some have stated that a CU represent a legion and have cited the number 5,000, the average number per legion, as the number of troops per CU. While I personally think it should be a tad higher (since the present calculation would limit all moving armies to 50,000), 5,000 per CU is a reasonable number to go by.

I think the value is right where it should be. When you consider that a stack of 10 legions of 50,000 men per Consul, plus the auxiliaries of the extra battle cards for extra allies brings a consular Army in Italy to about 60,000, and potentially more outside of Italy(with a lot of foreign allies), this seems more then enough. Even at Cannae when the Armies were double size, it was two Consular armies together combining for 80,000 men.

70,000-80,000 men were not combined again during that war and armies of 30,000-50,000 seemed to be the norm. Any more then that was exceptional. A single Consul shouldn't be dragging around more men then that. I think the designers got it correct.
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