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Carlo Patek
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Are 3 and 4 players game balanced?

Or should i go with some house rule?
 
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If you haven't played any games yet, play a few games first. Any potential imbalances only pop up when players attain at least some experience.

3 player game is imbalanced by default in any game like this. Either two players ally against a third, or two players fight between each other while the third prospers. There is no simple way around this.

4 player game has a slight problem that one player (Baratheon) has a much easier time winning if the other players let him. Good negotiation fixes this, but you can also use some variants. My personal recommendation is - if you're gonna play the game often with just 4 players, get the Feast of Crows expansion. It's designed for 4 players only, and I actually prefer it to vanilla game since I like goal-oriented gameplay instead of just collecting castles.
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Matteo Angioletti
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Defenitely go for some houseruled setup. The easiest solution is to make the southern neutral territories always impassable.

Other ideas from the Variants subforum:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1100814/balanced-3-and-4-pla...

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/803739/balanced-game-ideas-f...

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/881574/southern-4-player
 
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With 3 players, I would go with the base game setup. With 4 players, I would use A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition) – A Feast for Crows.
 
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i've played a lot of 3 player games, and we like it as it is.

All 3 houses have won in some of our 3 player games, and although it's not perfectly balanced, it's fine as it is.. you just learn what to do and not to do.
 
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I find that the key to a functioning 3 player game is that all players understand that as soon as someone pulls ahead, it turns into 2 vs 1. And that this will shift alliances a lot during the game.
 
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bagisbjorn wrote:
I find that the key to a functioning 3 player game is that all players understand that as soon as someone pulls ahead, it turns into 2 vs 1. And that this will shift alliances a lot during the game.

We already play Starcraft TBG in 3, so we already learnt that

Is it playable with 2 factions per player? (so with fixed alliances)

And if so, which ones do you think are most balanced?
 
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Honestly I think 3 players with 2 factions each solves nothing, it just makes things more convoluted and confusing.

Just play a regular 3 player game, and try to switch alliances each time one player seems to be getting in the lead.
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So here i am again, tonight hosting a game with 5 players.

I'll go with no Greyjoy and Seaguard 5 neutral strength and Flint's Finger 4 points.

Is that a good setup?
 
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Kajo wrote:
So here i am again, tonight hosting a game with 5 players.

I'll go with no Greyjoy and Seaguard 5 neutral strength and Flint's Finger 4 points.

Is that a good setup?

Works. I prefer to play with the southern map from the first version of the game (the file is somewhere on here...), some areas in the south grows bigger and a lot of the others are removed - and most of them are devalued. We've houseruled that Oldtown still is a stronghold (it's a castle in the first edition map) because we've found that Tyrell have more problem than usual in that setup.
 
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bagisbjorn wrote:
Kajo wrote:
So here i am again, tonight hosting a game with 5 players.

I'll go with no Greyjoy and Seaguard 5 neutral strength and Flint's Finger 4 points.

Is that a good setup?

Works. I prefer to play with the southern map from the first version of the game (the file is somewhere on here...), some areas in the south grows bigger and a lot of the others are removed - and most of them are devalued. We've houseruled that Oldtown still is a stronghold (it's a castle in the first edition map) because we've found that Tyrell have more problem than usual in that setup.

It sounds like bagisbjorn is referring to this setup - https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/87242/4-and-5-player-boar...

I also use this setup for 4 or 5 players. It works well enough for us. Primarily, we use it to avoid Lannister-Greyjoy all out war and Baratheon easy win in the 4p version.
 
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scottishduck wrote:


It sounds like bagisbjorn is referring to this setup - https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/87242/4-and-5-player-boar...

Yeah, that's the one. When checking it struck me that I can't remember a game where we actually gave Sunspear any neutral garrison at all... It really should be there though.
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