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Maxwell Smart
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I'm looking for:

- The theme of Diplomacy (i.e. war in Europe, broadly)
- The feel of Diplomacy (tension, territorial struggle, some amount of negotiation)
- With a slightly more complex combat mechanic than "more beats less". I'd even accept luck-based!
- Plays 3+ players
- Time limit ideally under 6 hours

Any suggestions?
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Moe45673
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Virgin Queen or Here I Stand sound about right.

If you want a cutthroat negotiation game, Tammany Hall is about battling for votes in 19th century Manhattan. It plays like a wargame, there is a "More beats Less" element that has a cool blind-bidding thing to switch it up (outbluff your opponent!). Tons of screwage and negotiation in 2 hours, plays excellently 3-5

But my first two suggestions look more like what you're asking
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Tom Lee
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Doesn't fit all of your criterias, but yo MAY will still enjoy A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition)
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Imperial.
Balance of Power.
War: Age of Imperialism.
The latter more A&A like.
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Trevyn Hey
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Duplexo wrote:
Doesn't fit all of your criterias, but yo MAY will still enjoy A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition)


I second this one. Combat is generally more beats less, but the game includes house cards that add strategy and additional Tides of Battle cards that add a random factor as well. I choose to play without the random factor, as the house cards add enough for me. It's also not a war in Europe, as it takes place in Westeros, but there's also no magic or anything so there's that.
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Curt Carpenter
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Wallenstein (second edition)
 
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Lord Limboldt
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Game of thrones meets best the criteria diplomacy + war.

Perhaps:
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9625/struggle-of-empires


http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6752/attack
Together with the expansion it brings a lot of stuff: you can convince neutral countries to join you instead of attacking them, you have to manage some ressoruces and it has a unique and interesting combat system. But you can play it without Diplomacy when you have enough units...

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/135281/serenissima-second...
An interesting mix of trading and fighting, negotiation can be helpful



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T. Dauphin
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Origins of World War II

This is an old one, and sorry but it's still 'more beats less'.
However, each nation has unique goals to attain, which can only happen with support from others. Great historical simulation. Relatively short.

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Jim Patching
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Apart from the combat mechanic, Imperial fits the bit.
 
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