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Is it only me, but sometimes I'm a little confused by the way people use the comment section.

There's lots of cryptic entries with hardly any use for the community. I thought the intention of this section was to share your thoughts about a game with other BGG Users in the first place. Some people misuse the comment section to keep track of personal stuff, instead of leaving helpful information and thoughts about the game itself. Actually it doesn't bother me who kickstarted what or who owns an unwrapped copy of game XY. There are separate sections (Personal Info or wishlist comment) for that.

No offense, but I'm feeling kind of bored of scrolling through hundreds of comments to a game reading nothing else but "kickstarted" or stuff like that.

I'm not saying that all of my own comments are useful to others. But I always try to give some impression of what I experienced when playing a game or why I like or dislike a particular game.

Is anyone else feeling the same or am I just too demanding?
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forza_sge75 wrote:
Is it only me, but sometimes I'm a little confused by the way people use the comment section.

There's lots of cryptic entries with hardly any use for the community. I thought the intention of this section was to share your thoughts about a game with other BGG Users in the first place. Some people misuse the comment section to keep track of personal stuff, instead of leaving helpful information and thoughts about the game itself. Actually it doesn't bother me who kickstarted what or who owns an unwrapped copy of game XY. There are separate sections (Personal Info or wishlist comment) for that.

No offense, but I'm feeling kind of bored of scrolling through hundreds of comments to a game reading nothing else but "kickstarted" or stuff like that.

I'm not saying that all of my own comments are useful to others. But I always try to give some impression of what I experienced when playing a game or why I like or dislike a particular game.

Is anyone else feeling the same or am I just too demanding?


I figure it's a personal comment for an item in someone's collection. That is, it's the comment field that appears when you look at someone's colleciton.

If I want to see opinions, there are ratings and reviews and session reports. And videos. And sometimes some quite creative images (photos/comics/etc).
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It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.
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I think the public comments section ought to be information useful to the community, and personal notes ought to be in the private information section.

But I don't think it's worth the time or effort to enforce.
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poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.
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Although it doesn't bother me how other people use comments, I see things the same way as Oliver:

Comments - my opinion for public consumption.

Wishlist comments - semi-public notes (mainly for me) like "Essen 2014" (my equivalent of "Kickstarter", I guess).

Trade Condition - semi-public comments (mainly for me) listing expansions owned, etc.

Private Info / Comments - truly private comments about a game.
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forza_sge75 wrote:
Is it only me, but sometimes I'm a little confused by the way people use the comment section.

There's lots of cryptic entries with hardly any use for the community. I thought the intention of this section was to share your thoughts about a game with other BGG Users in the first place. Some people misuse the comment section to keep track of personal stuff, instead of leaving helpful information and thoughts about the game itself. Actually it doesn't bother me who kickstarted what or who owns an unwrapped copy of game XY. There are separate sections (Personal Info or wishlist comment) for that.

No offense, but I'm feeling kind of bored of scrolling through hundreds of comments to a game reading nothing else but "kickstarted" or stuff like that.

I'm not saying that all of my own comments are useful to others. But I always try to give some impression of what I experienced when playing a game or why I like or dislike a particular game.

Is anyone else feeling the same or am I just too demanding?


I figure it's a personal comment for an item in someone's collection. That is, it's the comment field that appears when you look at someone's colleciton.

If I want to see opinions, there are ratings and reviews and session reports. And videos. And sometimes some quite creative images (photos/comics/etc).


The comment you leave in the comment section of your collection is exactly the same that everyone else finds when viewing the comments to a particular game!
 
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frumpish wrote:
I think the public comments section ought to be information useful to the community, and personal notes ought to be in the private information section.

But I don't think it's worth the time or effort to enforce.


Probably you're right. It's not worth the effort. I was just wondering...
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frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.


I learned something today. Thanks for the posts. Honestly never knew this...I thought comments were just my random thoughts and musings about my collection. However with 500+ games it will take quite a bit of time to correct.
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beardandglasses wrote:
frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.


I learned something today. Thanks for the posts. Honestly never knew this...I thought comments were just my random thoughts and musings about my collection. However with 500+ games it will take quite a bit of time to correct.


Maybe it wasn't too pointless to open that thread then ;-)
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frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.
I did not. I've been tracking that information in a spreadsheet... Interesting that you can do it on BGG directly.

Can you view this info from the owned games list?
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Thunkd wrote:
frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.
I did not. I've been tracking that information in a spreadsheet... Interesting that you can do it on BGG directly.

Can you view this info from the owned games list?


Yes, you can. Go to "Collection" / "Columns" and mark "Private Info"
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I never knew about this either!

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Is it possible to have on your profile page a visual representation of your most recent acquisitions, in the same way that many users (including me) show off their Top 10, Hot 10, and Recently Played games?

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frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.


News to me.
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forza_sge75 wrote:
Thunkd wrote:


Can you view this info from the owned games list?


Yes, you can. Go to "Collection" / "Columns" and mark "Private Info"



Awesome. I'll update my games, albeit it slowly.

OTOH, I'm not really sure what to expect of comment fields, then. Currently, I'm mostly using it to make which games use generic bases (poker/bridge card deck games, games that use Icehouse pieces, dominoes, etc.); that seems to make sense for general comments, as there isn't any other field to mark things like that (to my knowledge).
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OTOH, I'm not really sure what to expect of comment fields, then.
The common usage is to use it for leaving a light-weight review of the game; a determination of why you rate the game as you do. This is also what's mostly looked for by those people who heavily use the geekbuddy system for getting feedback on what games to get: Insightful comments to accompany each rating.

But really, as with all such systems, use it in whatever way makes most sense to you, and which give you personally the biggest benefit.
Trying to proscribe to others how to use such a system is an exercise in futility. BGG will reap the value of the wisdom of the crowds regardless of how many people "mis-use" the field, while there'll always be more people writing 'incomprehensible' or 'useless' comments to mess up the idealistic worldview in which we'd all have perfect understanding of the possibilities of the system.
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In december 2007, when I registered in BGG, I remember that the "private info" section did not exist but I don't remember when it was added.
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In december 2007, when I registered in BGG, I remember that the "private info" section did not exist but I don't remember when it was added.
I went searching and found July 2008 as an answer

Major Site Update - User Collection System Overhaul

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I was not aware of the private comments section so thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Most of my comments are for public reading but a couple are really private collection notes. I shall move them now.
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Feel free to continue to read whatever 'comment' I have about whatever games I feel like commenting on. Oh my.

Perhaps you should be clicking 'reviews.'
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I assumed comments were the only way to write whatever I thought about the game, be it "kickstartered" etc.

Now that I know there is another option I don't think I will change since comments is the default setting on how to look at 'my collection'. Too inconvenient to change over currently, not ruling it out for the future though.
 
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forza_sge75 wrote:
Thunkd wrote:
frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.
I did not. I've been tracking that information in a spreadsheet... Interesting that you can do it on BGG directly.

Can you view this info from the owned games list?


Yes, you can. Go to "Collection" / "Columns" and mark "Private Info"


Cool I didn't know about this feature. I do have some private comments (price paid etc) that would be nicer to separate out from general comments about the game.

I think the only reason I WOULDN'T use that Private Info feature is if I can't get it to show up on default every time I look at my collection via "owned". Is there a way to permanently have it displayed? I don't want to have to click the checkbox every time. Otherwise I'll just lump them in the public comments as I've been doing...
 
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JohnnyDollar wrote:
forza_sge75 wrote:
Thunkd wrote:
frumpish wrote:
poke450 wrote:
It's not like you can leave yourself a personal note about a game. If there was a field for private note to self about a game and then a public comment about a game, you probably would see a huge difference.


You can and there is.



My guess is that like Benjamin, a lot of users simply don't know about this option.
I did not. I've been tracking that information in a spreadsheet... Interesting that you can do it on BGG directly.

Can you view this info from the owned games list?


Yes, you can. Go to "Collection" / "Columns" and mark "Private Info"


Cool I didn't know about this feature. I do have some private comments (price paid etc) that would be nicer to separate out from general comments about the game.

I think the only reason I WOULDN'T use that Private Info feature is if I can't get it to show up on default every time I look at my collection via "owned". Is there a way to permanently have it displayed? I don't want to have to click the checkbox every time. Otherwise I'll just lump them in the public comments as I've been doing...


You can customize the look of your "reports" and save current views for later use. So you don't have to customize it over and over again. You can also add different saved views to the Quickbar for quick access.
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JohnnyDollar wrote:


I think the only reason I WOULDN'T use that Private Info feature is if I can't get it to show up on default every time I look at my collection via "owned". Is there a way to permanently have it displayed? I don't want to have to click the checkbox every time. Otherwise I'll just lump them in the public comments as I've been doing...


Yes, there is a permalink in the top right of the screen, then just add it to your quickbar. I use private info to track what I have paid for each game. Just don't tell my wife about it, OK.

As far as the regular comments sections goes, I say write whatever you want, they're your comments.
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Feel free to continue to read whatever 'comment' I have about whatever games I feel like commenting on. Oh my.

Perhaps you should be clicking 'reviews.'


I actually find the comments section much more interesting and useful (not to mention faster) when looking at a new game, I tend to read the 6's 7's and 8's to get an idea of whether or not I'd even be interested in reading reviews.
Having said that I certainly won't be beating your door down demanding you improve the usefulness of your comments for me.


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