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Write Somebody Else's Role Two

What: A game patterned after Pure Chaos, where the players submit the roles.
The Twist: Unlike Pure Chaos, the players aren't writing their own roles. They're writing roles for someone else.
How: Controlled, hopefully. Chaos will be present but hopefully it won't be too much. There will be only two teams, for example. The last game reached a very tense final four with plenty of chances for either team to take the lead. Hopefully, it will play more like traditional hidden roles than it will Pure Chaos.
When: When the game fills. I would like to have a full complement of 21 players for the game, if possible. However, if we have about 17+ I will probably run the game if it's been in signup for more than about a month.
How Many: 17-21 would be good. I'd prefer not to run it with less than 15, but any number 13+ is probably workable.

Rules

When signing up, every player will submit several roles within the following guidelines:

o 1-3 Good roles
o 1-2 Max Evil roles
o 0-1 Aux Evil roles

So the minimum number of submissions is 2 and the maximum is 6. You may submit roles that could fit either of these categories; but be aware you will start with less information by not being aware of what alignment may be associated with your submitted role.

When all roles are submitted and approved, I will use the submitted roles to create a setup for the game, and assign the selected roles, the one rule being that nobody will get a role they designed. Obviously, each player will know what role they submitted, and can choose to reveal this information or not, as they see fit.

All evil roles will be informed of at least one good role not present in the game for cover purposes. Players will not be told who submitted their role.

Up to two (0-2) roles in the game will be created not by the players but by the moderator. These roles will not be known by anybody except who they are assigned to. The purpose of this is to help balance the game and make an all-reveal of possible roles slightly less useful for good. Mod created roles are subject to the same restrictions as player-created ones.

There may also be villagers (good players with no powers), traitors (aux evils with no powers) and ordinary wolves (max evils with no powers). These may, at the mod's discretion, be given to players who do not submit any roles. Hopefully it won't come to that, but at least I have a rule in place to deal with it.

Restrictions

o The Rule of Cool is in full effect.
o Mod chat and wolf chat cannot be spied on by any means.
o No neutrals. No personal or alternate VCs. No hidden players.
o No conversion.
o No hidden role information.
o No creating powers during the game.
o No modlike or godlike powers.
o All roles must have a name.
o Players may not collaborate on roles before the game without prior mod permission (which I will only give for the utterly coolest of ideas).
o Communication with or reviving the dead will be allowed on a limited basis (it had better come with a darn cool role).
o View tampering will be allowed on a limited basis (again, the role had better be pretty cool).
o Power blocking for more than 24 hours is allowed on a limited basis (see the "fun" rule below).
o Role swapping is not allowed as it is too much of a headache.
o Toughness won't be allowed without a good reason.
o No inherent post restrictions.
o No powers that require a certain pre-set phrase to be posted in the thread to activate. This would give the creator of the role power over the person who receives the role (see below). Such a power might be accepted if the recipient of the role could choose their own phrase, but the moderator will not count this as much of a restriction.
o Silly random effects (see: the casino in Write Your Own Role, or the locations in that same game) will not be approved.
o New game mechanics will be accepted only if they're not a lot of trouble (as decided by the moderator).
o All implementations and interpretations of roles are up to the mod.
o The mod is opposed to roles that could publicly confirm their presence in the game. I'm not forbidding them outright, as I think cool roles can be made that use that mechanic, but it's only fair to warn you it'll be hard to impress me if you try that.
o No role will be accepted if, in the moderator's opinion, it will not be a fun role to play. No role which the moderator thinks is likely to destroy the fun of other players will be accepted. No role which gives the creator of the role power over the player who receives it will be allowed.
o The mod may add more to this list if he thinks of something that needs to be added.

Other Stuff

o Complete role and team information will be revealed on death by default.
o Good wins when all max evils are eliminated.
o Evil wins at max evil parity.
o Default tiebreaker is LHLV.
o I have decided to restrict dawn sniping in this game. Please do not post if there are less than 30 minutes before the night orders deadline.
o All assigned roles and cover roles will be given a number 1-10. Players will not know what number their created roles received; only their assigned one (including cover role(s) if that player is evil). If I can't resolve a contest of powers, the lower number will win.
o Items will be handled using the cassy physics system. Items will be distributed to the killer(s) or voters if possible on a holder's death; otherwise they will be passed at random. You can hold as many items as you like, and can pass any or all of them as a night action.
o The mod won't lie, unless you count tampered view results.
o If you cannot participate, please do not sign up.
o Balance? Not likely.
o Be respectful to fellow players.
o No zombie posts.
o Don't edit or delete posts.
o Actually, don't do any of the stuff that's usually frowned upon in these games and let's keep this list somewhat short, okay?
o Some form of an all-reveal plan will probably be proposed at some point. It is not against the spirit of the game to engage in this plan. Of course I can't say whether or not it will be a good idea.
o Lynch and night orders deadline is 4:00/5:00 respectively. Times in Cassy are a placeholder.

Link to previous game: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/6693...
Link to roles in previous game: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/7292347#7292347
Link to signup thread: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1045936/write-somebody-e...

I am not forbidding players from submitting the same roles over again, but that's not really the point of the game, is it?
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
You should have gotten a role PM. Let me know if you didn't.
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
[killed the sound sleeper]

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Role name: Sound Sleeper
Alignment: Any
Powers:

1. You know that Melriken is on your team.

2. If this role is not in the game, the mod will post [killed the sound sleeper] and this role description to the thread at the dawn of D1.

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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
Dekal is the Kite.

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Role Name: Kite
Alignment: Any
Powers:

1. Role description is posted by the mod at game start, along with who it belongs to.

2. The Kite cannot be lynched, killed, or affected by powers.

3. The Kite has a chat room with every player in the game.

4. Each night the Kite must select a lover, just for that cycle. They may not select the same player twice unless they have no other choice. If that player is lynched or killed, the Kite is also removed from the game.
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
can we talk? I'm just really sad for Dekal.
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
twomillionbucks wrote:
No posting.
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - N0
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twomillionbucks wrote:
No posting.
[modkilled Phelanpt]

That'll teach him.

FYI, some of you have some N0 orders.
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[dawn]

It is now D1. First lynch is Tuesday. Enjoy the game!
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
[vote TommyDanger]

It hurts so good. I don't even care if he's in the game or not!
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
The Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally System

Your Moderator has enabled the Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally system
for this game. In order for it to function correctly, your votes will
need to be formatted correctly. The following rules will explain what
you will need to do:

Players
1. All votes must be bolded

2. The entire vote statement must be bolded and enclosed in brackets:
[vote jmilum]

3. If your game allows, and you [vote nightfall] your vote will
be locked. Your moderator may have disabled nightfall votes.

4. Vote tallies will be automatically posted to the game thread
regularly if the tally has changed. The Tally and Vote Logs (for each
game day) are also available on the Cassandra game page.

5. If your vote is not counted be sure to check the Vote Log page and
see if it was marked invalid and why.

6. Case does not matter and simple typos will not cause the vote to fail.

7. You may [vote no lynch] if your game allows it.

8. Non voting players will be listed in the tallies. This will only be
correct if the Moderator notes which players have been killed (see below)

9. Editing a vote post will invalidate the vote and it will not be counted.


Moderators
1. The moderator will need to post [Dawn] when the day begins
(after the night results are posted) and [Dusk] when the lynch
deadline has passed and the day is over. Votes will not be counted
after [Dusk] has been posted. They will be registered again
after [Dawn] is next posted.

2. You may include a day number in the dawn and dusk post for
informational purposes, but it will not be used by the system.
Cassandra will increment an internal counter each time it sees
[Dawn] no matter what day is shown in a dawn post (i.e.
[Dawn 3] the three is allowed but ignored)

3. After dusk has been posted, the Moderator may go to the game page
on Cassandra to request a Final Tally to be posted before the normal
scan period has elapsed (i.e. Game Y gets scanned at 45 min. after the
hour, if it lynches at 7pm the moderator may request a tally to be
posted from the game page before 7:45pm. it will also be posted
regardless of whether or not it has been changed since the last
posting) - Do this by clicking on the 'Force Vote Tally' link.

4. You will need to note which players were killed via the lynch or at night by
either posting [killed jmilum] in the thread, or by going to the game
page and editing the player list. When posting in the thread, be sure to post
[dusk] before posting the lynch kill, and post [dawn] before
posting the night kill.
Example:
A. lynch time has passed so post [dusk]
B. goto the game page and select a final tally to be posted
C. check the final tally and post [killed melsana]
D. after the night deadline has passed post [dawn]
E. post the night kill with [killed kima]

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.
Your Moderator has chosen to allow Nightfall votes.
Your Moderator has chosen to allow No Lynch votes.

Vote Log Page: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1131...
Vote Tally Page: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1131...
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
[vote Javal] because why not?

I'm debating whether we should discuss a few things now or if it's advantageous to wait. Currently leaning towards wait, but I will say that in general in these types of games, it tends to be better to reveal information a little too soon than too late.
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
VOTE TALLY

Player (21/21) - # - Voted by

Javal - 1 - TommyDanger(1)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, dbmurph22, Dekal, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides, ZenMonkey11


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.


Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 4:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 5:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

TommyDanger - 1 - Javal(1)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, dbmurph22, Dekal, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides, ZenMonkey11
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret


[Vote Dispaminite]


For being the creator of my role.
 
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VOTE TALLY

Player (21/21) - # - Voted by

Javal - 1 - TommyDanger(1)
Dispaminite - 1 - dbmurph22(2)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, Dekal, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides, ZenMonkey11


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.


Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 4:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 5:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

dbmurph22 - 1 - Dispaminite(2)
TommyDanger - 1 - Javal(1)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, Dekal, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides, ZenMonkey11
 
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[vote dispaminite]
For being the creator of murph's role.
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
SamNzed wrote:
can we talk? I'm just really sad for Dekal.
Aw, don't me. I'm stuffed with everything good that makes a kite.

[IMG]*This was supposed to be an image of a kite. But now it isn't. What are you gonna do about it?*[/IMG]
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
VOTE TALLY

Player (21/21) - # - Voted by

Dispaminite - 2 - dbmurph22(2), Dekal(3)
Javal - 1 - TommyDanger(1)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides, ZenMonkey11


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.


Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 4:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 5:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

dbmurph22 - 1 - Dispaminite(2)
Dekal - 1 - Dispaminite(3)
TommyDanger - 1 - Javal(1)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides, ZenMonkey11
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
I feel like the Kite's power is almost too powerful to be evil but perfectly powered to be good. Therefore I think Dekal is good. Thoughts?
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
TommyDanger wrote:
[vote Javal] because why not?

I'm debating whether we should discuss a few things now or if it's advantageous to wait. Currently leaning towards wait, but I will say that in general in these types of games, it tends to be better to reveal information a little too soon than too late.
Well, having read the previous thread, there's always the option of everyone revealing their submissions for aux/max evils so we have some hint as to what we're facing.
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
TommyDanger wrote:
I feel like the Kite's power is almost too powerful to be evil but perfectly powered to be good. Therefore I think Dekal is good. Thoughts?
While I agree it would be very powerful for a max evil, remember:

twomillionbucks wrote:

o Balance? Not likely.
It could also be an aux-evil, which would allow for a difficult-to-kill vote for the evil side that wouldn't really have any anti-good powers.
 
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
The kite is probably good. In a game construct sense I wouldn't see the kite as max evil because it's excellence is as a potential in between for imperfect information. Max evils have more information so it's not as interesting. Could be aux. I don't think you ever lynch it before other potentials or before giving evil a chance to NK it, which they will if it's good and shell gaming things like views.

It doesn't look my little ruse about being forced to post kitty pictures is going to work since roles can't really be publicly confirmed. Saw that in the rules. So that sort of nixes post restriction powers. So, that's not a part of my role, but I'm going to keep my vote on Disp anyway. I'll have to think of another way to fake evil out later, maybe.
 
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[Vote nickismyname] and meta is my game.
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Re: Write Somebody Else's Role TWO! - Game Thread - D1 - A Vicious Cabaret
VOTE TALLY

Player (21/21) - # - Voted by

Dispaminite - 2 - dbmurph22(2), Dekal(3)
Javal - 1 - TommyDanger(1)
nickismyname - 1 - ZenMonkey11(4)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.


Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 4:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 5:00 PM BGG
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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

dbmurph22 - 1 - Dispaminite(2)
Dekal - 1 - Dispaminite(3)
TommyDanger - 1 - Javal(1)
ZenMonkey11 - 1 - nickismyname(4)

Not Voting: Basen00, Chronomodra, CrimsonFox, Dispaminite, gdapkus, Irina_Phoenix, jamgar, Javal, Laladien, Melriken, nickismyname, RCSparrow, riot, saberwolf13, SamNzed, Vidarrr, violintides
 
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