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amanwing
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okay... so we all know this game could use some nice miniatures. Any ideas about that? Kickstarter, proxys?
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the zombies are easy enough, as I have lots Zombicide figures.
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The Last Night on Earth games might offer decent options for the characters, but there are so many survivors to choose from in Dead of Winter, it will be hard to have enough minis. Plus, where can you find a mini for Forrest, the mall Santa?
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Clearly the answer is Lego minifigs.
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Mxrk wrote:
Clearly the answer is Lego minifigs.


That is brilliant and expensive. My wallet hates you now
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fishminer wrote:
Mxrk wrote:
Clearly the answer is Lego minifigs.


That is brilliant and expensive. My wallet hates you now

At the risk of increasing your wallet's hate level even more...
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&q=zombie&catLi...
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There's no need for minis for a game like this. I personally like that they made both zombies and characters as cardboard stands - only one being minis would not have been good. And since player controls multiple characters, it's a smart design decision.

Sure there could have been painted minis of all characters and whatnot, but it would have driven the price of this game into luxury collectors item territory.

The only thing I wish they would have done is that they would have given generic stands to 'young and old' survivors as well, instead of a token.
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Yeah, the minis are soooo unimportant in this game, stands are enough... and price would be smth between 70-90 euros - too much.
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Miniatures means that they will dull grey colors. At least these stands are colorful. Not everyone has the money or time to get everything painted.

Not to mention I'm sure lots of people are happy that not having miniatures means a lower price point for the game. I mean it is already being sold for 50 ish in Canada retail value. Add in figures and that jumps up to 70 easily.
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amanwing wrote:
okay... so we all know this game could use some nice miniatures. Any ideas about that? Kickstarter, proxys?


"We all" in this context must mean you and the mouse in your pocket.
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After seeing the prototypes of this game, there doesn't seem to be a contiguous field which concretely represents the environment which you are interacting with. The colony is one area, but the other locations seem to have no geographical relevance.
Most games which use miniatures have that. Dead of Winter seems to be using the standees and location sheets to semi-abstractly represent objects which are used only as references for you to create an internal story experience. Similar to how words on a page can create an immersive, cinematic tale but are not those things. From this, I don't think miniatures would add value to the experience. Not sure if this makes sense.
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Wargames Factory sell some affordable multipart plastic Zombies and Survivors:
http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dark-futures
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Totally agree! I know there is no actual purpose to the upgraded minis, as others have pointed out. But I love this game, play it a lot, and I would love to see Plaid Hat Games come up with a pre-painted miniature pack for those of us who are eager to upgrade our game.
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JessiJean wrote:
Totally agree! I know there is no actual purpose to the upgraded minis, as others have pointed out. But I love this game, play it a lot, and I would love to see Plaid Hat Games come up with a pre-painted miniature pack for those of us who are eager to upgrade our game.


That would be very expensive to do. So expensive it's outside the realm of consideration.
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I use zombie miniatures (from Run, Fight, or Die!), but I use the standees for the survivors. I think using miniatures for the survivors would be to hard to tell apart from each other.
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I've only played this game once and haven't even bought it yet but have already thought that miniatures for the zombies would be great. I found the included zombies just a little hard to tell apart from the characters a few times (I wish they had at least printed the zombies with a black background/outline to give them a little uniqueness) so I just came here to BGG to see which zombie miniatures might work the best. Glad someone else is thinking the same way!
 
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heyheyjk wrote:
... (I wish they had at least printed the zombies with a black background/outline to give them a little uniqueness) ...


May I suggest a red sharpie and a steady hand?

Saw someone on here (can't find the link) who did that and it looked great.

and for the OP: I don't agree, miniatures are not necessary and would add nothing except extra cost.
 
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"I don't agree, miniatures are not necessary and would add nothing except extra cost."
You can say that about every game.
 
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amanwing wrote:
You can say that about every game.


Yes, you could say that, but you would be wrong in many cases.
 
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Would you mind to explain why?
 
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There are games that focus on a handful of characters. These games make good use of minis.

DoW has ~100 characters all of which can easily be used in a single game.

100 minis + the paint cost + the time for paint job = so not worth it that I can't even think.

Without paint, it would look way worse than the current.
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amanwing wrote:
Would you mind to explain why?


Because not every game would be improved by adding minis.

Most games have no use at all for them (Catan, Ticket to Ride, Magic the Gathering, Dice Masters, etc) and many others already have a viable alternative (Monopoly, Pandemic, Dead of Winter, etc).

There are a finite amount of games where minis not only add to the enjoyment, but are necessary to that enjoyment (Warhammer 40K, X-Wimg Miniatures, the various Attack Wing games, Heroccliks, etc).
 
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All the games you mentioned have no single playable characters so no miniatures. Why do you think miniatures are necessary for Warhammer or X-Wing? You could play with paper markers.
And what about comparable games with playable characters like "Zombicide" "Mansion of Madness" or almost all flying frog games. They come with miniatures but would be fully playable with paper markers.
Miniatures are never necessary but improve the gaming experience. Especially when they are painted.
 
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amanwing wrote:
... You could play with paper markers.....


I never said you could not play without miniatures, I said they are there to make the games more enjoyable.

Are you honestly saying that Warhammer would have become as popular as it is with no miniatures?
 
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Gentlemen, I am not sure where that tangent can go other than pointlessness times infinity. Plus, not really the topic at hand.

Personally, I think actual miniatures would just clutter up the board. The focus of the game isn't so much what's on the table but what the other people are doing and ascertaining their motives. I wouldn't mind seeing more games go with cutouts IF they lower the cost of the game.
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