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A-Wing and B-Wing

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What the HE...

I mean, sure, the A-Wing needs love. We've all got that.

But the B-WING?! Geeeeez...already one of the best fighters in the game, and we are going to get MORE options for it?

*Ouch*...
 
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Both only have 2 named pilots, so it'll be nice to see a little variety.
 
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Dammit, FFG, I need money for myself. Meh on the B-wing, but that McQuarrie A-wing...hmm.
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Man the hits just keep on coming... I wonder if we'll actually see the transport, Tantive IV, Wave 4 AND Rebel Aces all by the end of the year.

(where am I going to keep all this stuff??)
 
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It be cool if they gave this B-wing the sideways pose instead of the upright.

I do like my B-wings but seldom fly named ones so not as interested in this beyond the collectors addiction.
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I do wonder whether retail stores are going to start to struggle to keep all the different expansions in stock--unlike CCGs, this game is an immense space hog, especially with the huge ships coming soon.
 
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Wow, looks cool. I wish they had chosen a different paintjob for the A-wing though! Looks like a "Prototype Pilot" (McQuarrie concept) paintjob, but I already have 2 like that!
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Wow, looks cool. I wish they had chosen a different paintjob for the A-wing though! Looks like a "Prototype Pilot" (McQuarrie concept) paintjob, but I already have 2 like that!


That happened to me with the blood stripe on the Interceptor... traded my old one to make room for new ones.
 
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You never know what's in the pack though in terms of upgrades. I'm sure some people aren't buying multiple Imperial Aces simply to have a flight element of Red TIE Interceptors

Heres a question though; would you repaint these ace ships as well, or keep them stock because they're unique? I think for myself, any ship that comes out of these aces packs I'd pass on repainting and use them for specific pilots.
 
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It's up on FFG site now !

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4705

Negative points upgrades !!!
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http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4705


More info there. Want now.
 
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You have got to be KIDDING me! I purposefully stopped buying A-Wings since I feared this would come out, but didn't think B-Wings would be part of it, and so have already picked up my 4th B-Wing. Sometimes, I hate you FFG...

-shnar
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Wow, is this a little broken? Just imagining the possibilities...



-shnar
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shnar wrote:
Wow, is this a little broken? Just imagining the possibilities...



-shnar


Help me see the broken possiblities
 
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shnar wrote:
Wow, is this a little broken? Just imagining the possibilities...



-shnar


I don't think it's broken. I think I see what FFG is doing here.

The top tourney players here in Toronto that I've talked to say the A-Wings are overpriced by 1-2 points. I agree with them.

FFG is now giving the A-Wings the barrel roll action that they should have had at their current price point and making them more like interceptors by taking away the missile slot.

Green Squad with PTL now costs = Green (19) + Push (3) = 22 pts

After this becomes legal he will cost the same amount of points and gain the barrel roll action.

Green (17) + Push (3) + Expert Handling (2) + Chardaan Refit (-2) = 22 pts

He won't be able to take missiles. Lets not forget that the A-Wing only has 2 attack dice. They need to stay out of arc and be range 1 to be any good.

I think Tycho just got better and will be able to dance with the top interceptor pilots.

Prototype blockers just got cheaper and more attractive to run.

The main thing to remember is that the A-Wing is not gaining an attack dice. It still has a very weak attack. That will keep it from being broken.
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They couldn't throw in a copy of Advanced Sensors? cry
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shnar wrote:
Wow, is this a little broken? Just imagining the possibilities...


Wait, but it's not Unique? Or does Title do that? It definitely shouldn't cost zero....
 
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cauldronofevil wrote:
Wait, but it's not Unique? Or does Title do that?


Unique Titles have the dot next to their name, like named pilots.
 
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Man flying Jake with Kyle and Garven could be a lot of fun.
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I didn't know the A-Wing needed that much fixing.

 
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Danath wrote:
Man flying Jake with Kyle and Garven could be a lot of fun.


You cannot perform the same action twice, so one of these two is probably good enough. Although it would be real fun to do a triple barrel roll.
 
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Hatchet Jack wrote:
shnar wrote:
Wow, is this a little broken? Just imagining the possibilities...



-shnar


Help me see the broken possiblities


Daredevil Arvel.
Expose/PTL Tycho.
PTL Prototypes?
 
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I'm not even thinking Expert Handling (and if that's what they were thinking, then having a 2 or 3 pt Ship Modification that added a barrel roll would have addressed that). I'm thinking things more like Determination + Draw Their Fire, or Swarm Tactics + Veteran Instincts, or Opportunist + Expose, or Expose + Marksmanship, etc.

I think for 0 cost, having a second EPT can be problematic. This doesn't even consider future EPTs that might add issues to the mix. Up to this point, EPTs were developed in isolation, no need to consider any combos. Now however...

The only saving grace is the ship it's on. On an A-Wing, perhaps it's not too powerful since they're rather fragile. Plus, such combos might convince players to use A-Wings more (which is why I wish the Rebel Aces pack were two A-Wings, one blue and one green). On another ship, like say the Falcon, this would be pretty broken.

-shnar
 
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delta_angelfire wrote:
Hatchet Jack wrote:
shnar wrote:
Wow, is this a little broken? Just imagining the possibilities...



-shnar


Help me see the broken possiblities


Daredevil Arvel.
Expose/PTL Tycho.
PTL Prototypes?


No PTL Prototypes, you need a skill higher than 1.
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