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eli goldman
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Hi,

We are almost finishing our first board game (for kids/teens).

My dilemma is about the Box type:
We can do a box like the one of catan / monopoly or a box like "pizza box".
(Our game is about pizza delivery but i am asking generally...)
The production price of the 2 options is with a big difference.

Also we are thinking about adding Card board inner / PS tray or none of them.

How important this 2 things to you ?

Thanks in advance modest
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I reckon a pizza box style box will probably appeal more to teenagers and children. If it was the same size as other boxes that would be cool as well so it fits well on the shelf. TtR size would be good, like the map packs. It also happens to look the same size as a pizza box
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A pizza box with a card board liner to hold pieces, sounds rad!
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A box that looked like and opens like a pizza box I think would have a great appeal for a pizza delivery game. Sadly my first impressions with any game are based on the box and meterial qualities. My favorite so far in initial quality has been Takenoko. I would think there are dozens of companies out there which do pizza boxes.
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Pizza Box Football does exactly this!



To be honest, it will limit your appeal somewhat - because the game looks slightly less serious. But it clearly has worked in the past...
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For your target group the pizza box sounds like a great idea! Although I prefer my games to some standard size I remember how my kids enjoyed the The Godfather Game that came in a box shaped like a violin case. Played that a lot back then.
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I wish all my games were the same size too, but really, thats not going to happen.

Heck, a box that looks like a violin case is going to get much more attention on a store shelf than a box that is the exact same size as 50 other boxes.
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If you make a game about pizza delivery and the game box is a pizza box, that's great. But be sure that the prize is not getting over the edge. As someone pointed out in another thread: If the final price will rise from 34 to 39 $ it's probably ok, but there are thresholds in games.

IIRC Kremlin in the old German edition had a kind of pizza box-box.
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Pizza Theory also did the pizza box:


IMO, it looked kind of tacky and prone to wear and tear. But there is a certain charm to it. As a gamer I would prefer a standard size box, but I could see the appeal for other people.
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eli goldman
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thanks to all -
and what about the need of Card board inner / PS tray or none of them?!
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I don't care for box inserts. I often remove them, if they are not very functional.
Dominion has a great insert and I would not want to miss it, but I can't think of another game right now that I think about this way.
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I don't care about the box. Actually making boxes for my favorite Print and Play or Zip lock bag games are quite enjoyable.

Also if you EVER think of making expansions, remember to make room in the original box for it. It's a pain to carry multiple boxes for one game.
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Must be a pizza box. Must have little plastic circle with 3 legs that holds up center of pizza box.

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On a side note- I'm actually surprised pizza boxes are more expensive than, well, any other size box, since, you know, pizzas are probably more common/sell more daily than board games. Getting them from a pizza box supplier in bulk should be dirt cheap, no?
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I hate when games have space for expansions. It makes me feel gouged. Was good content removed so I would buy the rest later? Or are they just assuming that they are so awesome I'll want more?
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zenpunk wrote:
Must be a pizza box. Must have little plastic circle with 3 legs that holds up center of pizza box.

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On a side note- I'm actually surprised pizza boxes are more expensive than, well, any other size box, since, you know, pizzas are probably more common/sell more daily than board games. Getting them from a pizza box supplier in bulk should be dirt cheap, no?


i would assume that you would need a sturdier box for a board game than an actual cardboard pizza box.
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Ah_Pook wrote:
i would assume that you would need a sturdier box for a board game than an actual cardboard pizza box.

Sturdier than the large boxes, of course, but was more thinking of the smaller ones, which are usually thicker and sturdier, with tabs that fold in to hold it closed even. Kinda ike the ones you get a personal pie to go in from a place like Chicago Uno.
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I would go with the innovative box or the box that fit the theme every time. However, you didn't say how much the price difference is. Is it prohibitive for your intended audience?

Also, will a different box cause trouble in shelving for retailers? You have to weigh the pro's and the con's and make the decision.
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