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Sodoff Baldrick
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http://wizkidsgames.com/blog/2014/03/28/star-trek-attack-win...


so finally some news for all the chicken littles
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"Dearly beloved we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of Weyoun 6 & the Kazon Crew. This union will bring tears and joy to us all."

check it out folks that guy just gets better and better. Andrew Parks you keep us on our toes cool
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The best part of the preview is the part that says "Coming April 2013!"

Kazon Boarding Party is pretty awesome.
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VarelseShrike wrote:
The best part of the preview is the part that says "Coming April 2013!"

Kazon Boarding Party is pretty awesome.


Yeah, that card is interesting and potentially powerful. "If you did this thing you can do this evil thing. Oh, and then this other evil thing. Oh, you want more? Take this souvenir, you evil bastard you."
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Illyth wrote:
VarelseShrike wrote:
The best part of the preview is the part that says "Coming April 2013!"

Kazon Boarding Party is pretty awesome.


Yeah, that card is interesting and potentially powerful. "If you did this thing you can do this evil thing. Oh, and then this other evil thing. Oh, you want more? Take this souvenir, you evil bastard you."


laugh

"F*** YOUR INTERPHASE GENERATOR! BUY ANOTHER ONE, YA RICH M**********R!!"
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1st thing I think of with boarding party is its interaction with IG. Does it steal the IG, or does the IG 1st negate the damage?
 
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jmdt784 wrote:
1st thing I think of with boarding party is its interaction with IG. Does it steal the IG, or does the IG 1st negate the damage?


Since IG would trigger before you actually deal the damage, you could use IG to first negate the damage to 1 damage, which would then stop the boarding party. But if you had IG and didn't use it in this particular case... you absolutely deserve it stolen!
 
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Heh, Gor Portas clowning build.

The Portas + ED + Photonic Charges. Hit em with ED, come about, hit em again with Photonic Charges.
 
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Mr S Baldrick wrote:
"Dearly beloved we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of Weyoun 6 & the Kazon Crew. This union will bring tears and joy to us all."

check it out folks that guy just gets better and better. Andrew Parks you keep us on our toes cool


Li Nalas would like to come along on that ride.
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So glad to see Seska.... and glad to hear "Seska makes her first appearance in the game ".

I really like this ship and upgrades a lot. Looking forward to giving them a try.
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What does "steal that Upgrade" mean in game terms? It's already Disabled. Does it end up on my ship Disabled, forcing me to spend an Action before I can use it?

Derp: Exactly the same as STAW:Superior Intellect
 
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davedujour wrote:
What does "steal that Upgrade" mean in game terms? It's already Disabled. Does it end up on my ship Disabled, forcing me to spend an Action before I can use it?


It would seem that this is exactly what it is. You can't steal a functioning interphase generator!
 
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VarelseShrike wrote:
The best part of the preview is the part that says "Coming April 2013!"

Kazon Boarding Party is pretty awesome.


Now if only I could go back in time to get them... :-p

Sadly though, Kazon boarding party will be useless. Cool in theory, garbage in practice.
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delta_angelfire wrote:
Sadly though, Kazon boarding party will be useless. Cool in theory, garbage in practice.


Care to elaborate?

Overall, I'm a lot more interested in this ship than I intended to be. It's sort of like the Somraw (but better), in that there's not much about it that screams "must buy," but it's really similar to a ship I was sort of tempted to buy multiples of, and now there's a much better alternative.
 
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Another 2 attack ship? Meh
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Don't Wizkids employ anyone to check if they haven't made errors. If you look at the ship image on the Movement card, which is also the image on the generic ship, its the huge Kazon Predator class. Even at the bottom of the ship image towards the centre, you can still see Voyager which is much smaller by comparison.
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Sure.

First - off it costs 5 points. Effectively 6 since you'll probably want to see what it does on a ship that actually has attack dice.

Second - it negates the ENTIRE attack and reduces it to EXACTLY one crit. Its almost like giving your enemy a free interphase generator. If you can deal 3 or 4 damage to a ship, how often are you really going to say "nah, I'd rather take a tech upgrade".

Third - Good targets are exceedingly rare. The best techs in the game right now are Cloaked Mines and Interphase Generator. If you can nab either of those from an opponent, they made a very stupid error. On the runner up list of most played techs is Transwarp Drive (not exactly a crippling tech to lose) and Shroud (which doesn't help non-dominion and should be combined with conditional surrender anyway). The other second stringers are Cloaking Device/Tetryon Emissions/Advance Weapon System and all have the same problems: Chances are it's already disabled, and you can't disable an already disabled upgrade, so no stealing! That pretty much only leaves Projected Stasis Field as the only worthwhile thing you have a chance at stealing. One card. And even then it'll be tricky to get it before they use it.

6 points to negate my own damage and MAYBE steal a Stasis Field IF my opponent is running it. Totally not worth it.
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I'm pretty sure if you check with Andy you will be able to steal tech that's already disabled.

Won't be able to use it on cross-faction ships though as it's Kazon only.


I feel sure the intent of the card is that:


2 dice attack, if both hit swap the two hits for a crit on the hull and steal some tech, but you can't use it that turn.
 
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SteRT wrote:
I'm pretty sure if you check with Andy you will be able to steal tech that's already disabled.

I would bet money that you're right.

However, it's still a garbage upgrade for the other reasons mentioned. At least, until we get the Kazon Predator. That might be able to put it to good use.
 
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SteRT wrote:
I'm pretty sure if you check with Andy you will be able to steal tech that's already disabled.

Won't be able to use it on cross-faction ships though as it's Kazon only.


I feel sure the intent of the card is that:


2 dice attack, if both hit swap the two hits for a crit on the hull and steal some tech, but you can't use it that turn.


I would gladly trade two shield stripping hits for one direct crit to hull any day of the week. Ganking tech is just the cherry on top. Adding insult to injury, quite literally. devil
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I'm sure Voyager and the Borg will have tech worth ganking. That voyager pack was pretty big, just full of things to take.
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Don't Wizkids employ anyone to check if they haven't made errors. If you look at the ship image on the Movement card, which is also the image on the generic ship, its the huge Kazon Predator class. Even at the bottom of the ship image towards the centre, you can still see Voyager which is much smaller by comparison.




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I snerked.
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Grelvis wrote:
Don't Wizkids employ anyone to check if they haven't made errors. If you look at the ship image on the Movement card, which is also the image on the generic ship, its the huge Kazon Predator class. Even at the bottom of the ship image towards the centre, you can still see Voyager which is much smaller by comparison.


Quick! Buy them up because they will be in rare supply when the next version of the pack comes out and they fix the pictures!
 
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Re: kazon preview upp
delta_angelfire wrote:


First - off it costs 5 points. Effectively 6 since you'll probably want to see what it does on a ship that actually has attack dice.


You'll never pay 6 points for this, since it can only be put on a Kazon ship.

I think this card pairs well with a ship like this. It'll probably be a great menace to Borg and Federation ships in particular, who have low defense usually but can be vulnerable to crits to the hull. And the ship itself seems destined to face off against the likes of Excelsior.

On a more general note, I maintain that it's the very height of foolishness to declare ANY card "garbage," especially if you've yet to see it in action.
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