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You Napoleonics fans should find this interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7jMcstxY0

The infographic image:

http://i.imgur.com/mDOetjc.png
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djberg96 wrote:
You Napoleonics fans should find this interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7jMcstxY0

The infographic image:

http://i.imgur.com/mDOetjc.png

Very! And I'm not even that much of a Nappy fan.

But I'm more of a WWII fan, so I was struck, looking at the map graphic, how many of the names rang a bell from the WWII version -- including Vitebsk, Smolensk, Mojaisk, Orsha, and the Berezina River.

Which I guess goes to show you just how thoroughly Hitler failed to learn the lesson Napoleon could have taught...
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I have a poster of this on my wall
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You get a poster of this if you take Edward Tufte's seminar on data visualization. The whole class is about how to display data in cool ways, and this picture is held up as a classic example. It's awesome.

More info on Tufte courses/books + this poster:
http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/
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I've got that one, too.
 
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jwb3 wrote:
Which I guess goes to show you just how thoroughly Hitler failed to learn the lesson Napoleon could have taught...

Hitler did learn that lesson. Don't worry about taking Moscow, the lesson is to destroy the Russian army in the field. You can then take Moscow at your leisure as there will be nobody left to oppose you. Unfortunately the Red Army was very good at hiding its strength and it turned out to be much, much larger than anyone in Germany had thought.
 
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The main lesson that Hitler ignored was Napoleon's failure to cultivate the indigenous populations of the western territories of Imperial Russia (eg the Ukraine). In 1812 many of these had been absorbed into Russia only 20 years or so previously. Had Napoleon offered to restore (a degree) of independence they would have almost certainly supported La Grande Armee which would have mitigated the horrendous logistical problems which brought about its destruction.

I suspect that the same might have been true in 1941.

Incidentally, the diagram dispels one of the enduring myths of the invasion. It was the unseasonably bad and extreme weather (days of torrential rain which turned the few remaining roads to impassable quagmires, followed by baking sun) during the first month or so of the campaign, rather than the famous winter, which occasioned the greatest loss to La Grande Armee.
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We used to use this info graphic back in 1990's to show corporations how far behind they were in the data analysis world...Even Napoleons efforts had analysis, what are you doing ATT? whistle
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