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richard glanzer
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That is not made clear.
Where can i rearrange the pieces to?
How many times can i move each piece?
Confused, which is probably why I'm not seeing the depth.
Please help as I am a huge lover of LOA and what this to be great.
thank you.
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Have you read the nestorgames rules? They seem pretty clear to me.
rules wrote:
A single bird or a line of birds move in a straight line, over
vacant spaces and must always stop next to another friendly
bird and in this way enlarge one or more other flocks. (A
single bird can also be referred to as a “flock”.)
You may never split an existing flock.

You may never split an existing flock.

A straight line of any number of birds of one color may fly in file
or side by side.


You move a line of one or more birds as a single rigid group, together in a straight line as far as you want through empty spaces, not splitting the (possibly larger) flock which it is part of, and as a result of the move some other flock must be larger (because this group moved to touch it).
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richard glanzer
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Figure 5 – The marked flock of 3 birds has 5 moves:
either 2 or 3 steps to the upper left creating a flock of 4
or 5, or to the lower left flying in single file connecting
to a single bird. Opponent birds block possible moves.
You may rearrange an existing flock if it is not split and
also enlarged after the move.


http://spielstein.com/games/volo/volo.en.pdf


thank you for trying to help
but please review above to understand my confusion Russ


 
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glanfam wrote:
Figure 5 – The marked flock of 3 birds has 5 moves:
either 2 or 3 steps to the upper left creating a flock of 4
or 5, or to the lower left flying in single file connecting
to a single bird. Opponent birds block possible moves.
You may rearrange an existing flock if it is not split and
also enlarged after the move.


http://spielstein.com/games/volo/volo.en.pdf


thank you for trying to help
but please review above to understand my confusion Russ

OK, do you see the 5 possible moves of that line of 3? 2 ways are to the northwest:

if it moves 2 spaces northwest, it then touches the single yellow stone to the north, enlarging it.

if it moves 3 spaces northwest, it then touches both of those single yellow stones, enlarging (and joining) them both.

and 3 ways are moving southwest, where there are 3 different positions it could end at and be touching that southwest single stone, enlarging it.

Hope that helps...!
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Thank you Russ for helping to clarify things. I'd like to add some images here because it's really not complicated and as always, a picture is worth a thousand words.

The group movement rule says that if you move more than one bird, they have to fly (simultaneously!) in a straight line side by side or following each other, joining birds from another flock. So this would be a simple example of one single move:



Of course there are flocks which don't have a linear structure and therefore cannot be moved as the flock would be split (which is not allowed):



Little bird "a" left behind... heartless.

However, if birdy "a" would flap at another place like in the following example the movement would be legal:



So the rearrangement thing is not really a new kind of movement, it's merely the appearance that flocks can sometimes stretch and change their shape.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for asking!
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This is a great game, Richard, keep at it. The process of "aggregating" more effectively than your opponent requires subtle defensive placements and movements, which can seem to slow, or to go against, the progress toward your own combining, but which are actually integral to victory. It shares this cool trait with another favorite of mine, Carnac. Both these games are ridiculously underappreciated IMHO.
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The way your groups start merging and sticking together also reminds me a little bit of Ayu, which has a sort of similar feel, although they are very different games. (Both are interesting games which can present some fun surprising aha!-discovery moments.)
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Ahh

an issue of misunderstood language.
i understand all that is explained.
thank you for taking the time.

i thought it meant that after the flock has been enlarged
that you can rearrange the flock into a new formation.

that kind of ruined the game for me.
now I'm looking forward to trying it again.
it will makes the game a lot harder :-)
and i'm sure A LOT better.
it was too easy the other way. lol

thank you Dieter and thank you Russ.


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richgowell wrote:
This is a great game, Richard, keep at it. The process of "aggregating" more effectively than your opponent requires subtle defensive placements and movements, which can seem to slow, or to go against, the progress toward your own combining, but which are actually integral to victory. It shares this cool trait with another favorite of mine, Carnac. Both these games are ridiculously underappreciated IMHO.




right!! Carnac and Volo are the most elegant and exciting games of the recent years!
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