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Here's the Union-Made take on what vehicles to buy.

http://www.uaw.org/cars

Unfortunately, while Toyota has done a lot to build plants in this country, they do it where anti-union culture is prevalent.

Which is tough for me. Toyota has better designs and technology, particularly with hybrids, but operates in a sphere of anti-unionism which makes it harder for me to support.

So I split the difference and drive a VW. *shrug*
 
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There are two Kraft plants in my area. One is union and the other is non-union. The employees at the non-union plant make more than the employees at the union plant. Unions are the last organizations I'd go to for purchasing advice.
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Shushnik wrote:

Unfortunately, while Toyota has done a lot to build plants in this country, they do it where anti-union culture is prevalent.


Good on them. I don't care enough to let it dictate what sort of car I drive (I have a Nissan and my wife has a Subaru) but I'm all for supporting anti-union companies.
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Democrats and Republicans agree that protectionism is good which is how you know it's bad.

Free trade is good. Protectionism is bad.
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1. Minivan: Honda Odyssey

Not only is the Honda (NYSE:HMC) Odyssey one of the best choices for buyers in the minivan segment, it’s also one of the most American-blooded too, with 75 percent of its parts coming from North America. The entire Honda minivan is assembled on American soil, down to the engine; the transmission is sourced from Mexico.



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jarredscott78 wrote:
Democrats and Republicans agree that protectionism is good which is how you know it's bad.

Free trade is good. Protectionism is bad.


By that logic the military must be the worst thing ever, because both love it so much they throw money at it like they can't control themselves.
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Shushnik wrote:
jarredscott78 wrote:
Democrats and Republicans agree that protectionism is good which is how you know it's bad.

Free trade is good. Protectionism is bad.


By that logic the military must be the worst thing ever, because both love it so much they throw money at it like they can't control themselves.

Yep.
 
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utoption2 wrote:
jarredscott78 wrote:
Democrats and Republicans agree that protectionism is good which is how you know it's bad.

Free trade is good. Protectionism is bad.


Gotta "protect" those jobs, Jarred. Shortsighted thinking, of course.


Shifts in comparative advantage can leave you worse off in absolute terms than you were before. If the firms overseas enjoy unfair advantages in terms of tax breaks, subsidies and violation of intellectual property rights I think it's probably fair to look at some policies to counter this.
 
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MWChapel wrote:
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1. Minivan: Honda Odyssey

Not only is the Honda (NYSE:HMC) Odyssey one of the best choices for buyers in the minivan segment, it’s also one of the most American-blooded too, with 75 percent of its parts coming from North America. The entire Honda minivan is assembled on American soil, down to the engine; the transmission is sourced from Mexico.



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Do you like it? I'm torn between that and the Quest.
 
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Shushnik wrote:
Here's the Union-Made take on what vehicles to buy.

http://www.uaw.org/cars

Unfortunately, while Toyota has done a lot to build plants in this country, they do it where anti-union culture is prevalent.

Which is tough for me. Toyota has better designs and technology, particularly with hybrids, but operates in a sphere of anti-unionism which makes it harder for me to support.

So I split the difference and drive a VW. *shrug*


Well, maybe some day you will get your wish, unions will spread to all 50 states, and nobody will build cars here anymore.
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Doing my part!


Do you like it? I'm torn between that and the Quest.


It is actually pretty awesome...well for a mini van. But it is kind of pricey. Our last car was a CRV, but the 4 cylinder gave it no power at all, but the Odyssey has a nice get up and go V6.

It's gadget overload. If we are ever hit by a EMP this thing is toast.

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I want to see a list for which ones are engineered here.

My company does do the application engineering here for the electronic brake systems for several of these, but base development is German.
 
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We skipped the vacuum option. Just couldn't justify spending 2 extra G's for a built in hand vac.
 
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MWChapel wrote:
jonnylawless wrote:
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Doing my part!


Do you like it? I'm torn between that and the Quest.


It is actually pretty awesome...well for a mini van. But it is kind of pricey. Our last car was a CRV, but the 4 cylinder gave it no power at all, but the Odyssey has a nice get up and go V6.

It's gadget overload. If we are ever hit by a EMP this thing is toast.



This is one of the things I'm not excited about. I want to drive the wheels off the minivan when we get one, but more electronics=more problems=higher cost and less ability to tinker on my own.
 
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This is one of the things I'm not excited about. I want to drive the wheels off the minivan when we get one, but more electronics=more problems=higher cost and less ability to tinker on my own.


I think you are fairly S.O.L in today's minivan market. It's all about the conveniences.
 
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MWChapel wrote:
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This is one of the things I'm not excited about. I want to drive the wheels off the minivan when we get one, but more electronics=more problems=higher cost and less ability to tinker on my own.


I think you are fairly S.O.L in today's minivan market. It's all about the conveniences.


Our odyssey is pretty bare bones. It is a 2010 I think.
 
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