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Of course, it's a face saving PR exercise to say "look we do not hate nigglers, buy our stuff".

It corporate hypocriecy at it's finest, and IO have no doubt in a few months time another "well he was born in a different age" type will open his bigoted gob and it will all start again.
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While I get your point, and I don't totally disagree with it, there is a difference between a player and an owner. Also, the sport itself has put rules in place about what can be done regarding players and what can be done regarding owners. The owners also have aggressive representation in defending them, which mitigates the actions that can be taken against them even further. You'd have to come up with more apples-to-apples comparisons. I think the NFL and their owner's public dealing with pill addiction would be a better place to start.
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With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.
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I think the bottom line was that the players were ready to walk out of playoff games since they felt disrespected by his comments. Seems like a simple economic decision to me.
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With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.


Sterling is part of an organization that has the right to kick him out.
Being that as it may, Spike Lee has never said anything remotely racist ever, which is why he is on that NBA channel.
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Should past lack of punishment for bad stuff preclude future punishment for bad stuff? I don't think so. Also the NBA rules have changed over time, so it might be that the organization lacked the means to punish some things in the past.
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I would think it's obvious. This happened for the same reason a particular internet video goes viral. A few compelling interest factors plus a big helping of serendipity. It has nothing to do with "over policing of thought". It's not a new phenomenon, it's the same reason we get lynchings. This is just how groups of people with emotions, imperfect information and limited attentions spans operate and always have.

Once again you're trying to make reality fit into your worldview rather than vice versa.
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What's the solution, Drew?

Do you think businesses should be regulated so that someone can't be fired for comments made in private conversation?
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This was all a ploy for Magic Johnson to be able to come in and buy them.
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Love the tag you put on this thread, Barry.


With the garbage tags that are thrown around other threads, I feel I had to sink down to that level.
 
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This was all a ploy for Magic Johnson to be able to come in and buy them.

I heard this at a bar I was at last night. They also said the lady was now seeing Magic Johnson and that's why she released the tape. They also didn't see the problem with Sterling, but had choice words for the lady.

It doesn't work though as Magic Johnson says he has no interest in another L.A. Team and the tape was released in retaliation for the suit Sterling's wife brought against her.
 
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whac3 wrote:
With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.


Sterling is part of an organization that has the right to kick him out.
Being that as it may, Spike Lee has never said anything remotely racist ever, which is why he is on that NBA channel.

Oh, he's said lots of stuff but not caused a public outcry.
 
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TheDashi wrote:
This was all a ploy for Magic Johnson to be able to come in and buy them.


Thumbed because I'm fairly sure you were joking. If you weren't, then please replace that thumb with a prayer for your soul.
 
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whac3 wrote:
With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.


Sterling is part of an organization that has the right to kick him out.
Being that as it may, Spike Lee has never said anything remotely racist ever, which is why he is on that NBA channel.

Oh, he's said lots of stuff but not caused a public outcry.


Thats because hes blllaaaaaccckkkkkk, and if there was an outcry about it, everyone that was doing the crying would be branded a raaaacccccciiiissssttttttt.
 
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This was all a ploy for Magic Johnson to be able to come in and buy them.

I heard this at a bar I was at last night. They also said the lady was now seeing Magic Johnson and that's why she released the tape. They also didn't see the problem with Sterling, but had choice words for the lady.

It doesn't work though as Magic Johnson says he has no interest in another L.A. Team and the tape was released in retaliation for the suit Sterling's wife brought against her.

Of course because it's always the woman's fault.
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Given the amount of money at stake here are we sure that there won't be a lawsuit to try and overturn the decision?
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TheDashi wrote:
whac3 wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
whac3 wrote:
With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.


Sterling is part of an organization that has the right to kick him out.
Being that as it may, Spike Lee has never said anything remotely racist ever, which is why he is on that NBA channel.

Oh, he's said lots of stuff but not caused a public outcry.


Thats because hes blllaaaaaccckkkkkk, and if there was an outcry about it, everyone that was doing the crying would be branded a raaaacccccciiiissssttttttt.

Then why is it okay to admit that Louis Farrakhan is a racist? Or that black separatists are racist?

Yeah, it's a lot easier for non-white people to talk about race with coming off as racists. There are some pretty damned good historical reasons for that.
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You know, Drew, you can vote with your wallet and even use your free speech to organize a boycott, if you don´t agree with the NBA´s business decisions.
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Obviously, rotten and even racist behavior is condoned actively or passively by the NBA. So why was this the tipping point?


This was the "tipping point" simply because this was the issue that garnered enough attention for the league to do what they've wanted to do for decades and chase Sterling out.
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whac3 wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
whac3 wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
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With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.


Sterling is part of an organization that has the right to kick him out.
Being that as it may, Spike Lee has never said anything remotely racist ever, which is why he is on that NBA channel.

Oh, he's said lots of stuff but not caused a public outcry.


Thats because hes blllaaaaaccckkkkkk, and if there was an outcry about it, everyone that was doing the crying would be branded a raaaacccccciiiissssttttttt.

Then why is it okay to admit that Louis Farrakhan is a racist? Or that black separatists are racist?

Yeah, it's a lot easier for non-white people to talk about race with coming off as racists. There are some pretty damned good historical reasons for that.


Well after farrakhan went up to that spaceship, whatever he calls it, I dont think they really care about him all that much.
 
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It may be that if this had occurred under the previous commissioner it would have been swept under the rug with a slap on the wrist also. There is a new Sheriff in town and it will be interesting to see if he wields these new standards with new consistency.
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TheDashi wrote:
whac3 wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
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TheDashi wrote:
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With all due respect, Drew, you and the other so-called conservatives on this board have been arguing that the rights of business owners to do what they want trumps everything else, even if you told yourselves you were doing something else. Well, this is what comes of that attitude.

What makes the act this ban is about worse than those listed? Only that the public outcry-- merited or not-- could hit the league owners in their pocketbook. All of the things listed are a business owner acting without gov't or public interference.

You can't have it both ways.


Sterling is part of an organization that has the right to kick him out.
Being that as it may, Spike Lee has never said anything remotely racist ever, which is why he is on that NBA channel.

Oh, he's said lots of stuff but not caused a public outcry.


Thats because hes blllaaaaaccckkkkkk, and if there was an outcry about it, everyone that was doing the crying would be branded a raaaacccccciiiissssttttttt.

Then why is it okay to admit that Louis Farrakhan is a racist? Or that black separatists are racist?

Yeah, it's a lot easier for non-white people to talk about race with coming off as racists. There are some pretty damned good historical reasons for that.


Well after farrakhan went up to that spaceship, whatever he calls it, I dont think they really care about him all that much.
Is that nutter still alive?
 
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There does seem to be a double standard. Kobe Bryant used a gay slur against a referee during a game very recently and didn't get any punishment at all. Bryant excused it by calling it the heat of the moment. The NBA in fact has a long history of players using slurs against gays with little or no league response.

Mind you the media is just as guilty in being selective. Paris Hilton has multiple times been recorded using racist slurs and the media shrugs and goes on it's way.
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There does seem to be a double standard. Kobe Bryant used a gay slur against a referee during a game very recently and didn't get any punishment at all. Bryant excused it by calling it the heat of the moment. The NBA in fact has a long history of players using slurs against gays with little or no league response.

Mind you the media is just as guilty in being selective. Paris Hilton has multiple times been recorded using racist slurs and the media shrugs and goes on it's way.


Bryant was fined for that incident, which was about three years ago if I remember right. He also got a ton of negative PR about it.
 
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There does seem to be a double standard. Kobe Bryant used a gay slur against a referee during a game very recently and didn't get any punishment at all. Bryant excused it by calling it the heat of the moment. The NBA in fact has a long history of players using slurs against gays with little or no league response.


Upthread, it says he got a $100,000 fine. Not much to him, probably. Maybe he should have gotten a suspension as well. I'm sure he will if it happens again.

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Mind you the media is just as guilty in being selective. Paris Hilton has multiple times been recorded using racist slurs and the media shrugs and goes on it's way.


Probably because no one care what Paris Hilton thinks.

A team owner stating those views about the players on his team is not something that can be ignored. Thinking this is a simple double standard demonstrates no concept of scale.
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