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Thomas Beaber
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Due to the limited supply of the starter and booster product, what should have been a fun and cheap game has turned into a nightmare. Locally one shop did not even sell boosters but broke them open to sell as singles while another just sold packs at $2 per pack. Really? Thanks to the high quality pictures on ebay who needs the "collectable" cards? Seriously, I have no desire for hoards of extra dice from extras to sit idle like my common and uncommon magic cards. I paid a premium for $1 a piece common dice/card so I can just proxy the gamearrrh. Ethically dubious for sure but it just make sense when venues are being preditory due to availability. Target at least was selling packs for a $1.
 
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Cody Forsberg
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Personally, this is the first I have heard of a FLGS opening the boosters to try and sell as singles. Certainly, this is only really worth it for the Ultra Rares, and it seems like an awful lot of trouble, especially since I personally would be out of a joint like that until they stopped trying to take advantage of me.
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Dave M
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Some places are. The market will settle down and proxies are probably ok for now, but when competitive play begins, which I'm sure many here would enjoy doing, proxies are obviously going to be out of bounds.
 
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Shawn G
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Anyone willing to pay $2 a booster pack isn't paying any attention, you can buy them for $1 each on ebay with free shipping if you're willing to buy 20 at once.
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Nick
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Sounds like more of an issue with your local store being crappy than the collectible model.
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Thomas Beaber
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Game shops provide the play venue which has value without them games become limited. I just pains me when they try to punish us for being excited for a product. The same things happened when magic first appeared. $15 for a pack of legends or another place that was selling boxes for $1200... Just bad all around. I really like this game though.
 
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I live in an area where we have 5 local gaming stores. The only one that was not being exploitive just ended up selling the displays before they even had a chance to be sold as boosters.
 
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Matthew Robinson
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Growing pains. This game will be everywhere and easy to find in 3 months. Same as all popular launches (video game consoles, board games, etc).
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Max Maloney
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In Portland, boosters are everywhere. No one is out of stock on them and they sell for $1 at game stores and $0.99 at mass market retailers.

Also, you can order boosters boxes for $42 ($0.70/pack) at Coolstuffinc.
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http://www.cardhaus.com/catalog/board_games/marvel_dice_mast... online $0.89

Sorry to hear, I would just shop around. All the FLGS in my area are selling at $1 or cheaper.

edit: *thumbs* for coolstuff too.
 
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Buying online is almost like being antisocial. I have no problem buying boardgames online because I game at a private home...I mean no game shop support required. I would love to see big events , which can only happen at a store.
 
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Travis Severance
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This has less to do with the collectible model and more of an issue with stock. At $1 a booster this should be one of the cheapest collectibles ever. Prices are what they due to supply and demand. The model works when supply can be met. This will all turn around in late May when more product is in the market. This same type of thing happens during Gencon when publishers release a limited amount of stock at the show. Prices on those games go crazy for those that get them and then the market clams down on regular release. Hold tight. Things will settle
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Jason
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Its a stock issue not collectible aspect. Just relax in a few months no one will remember the Great Dice Masters Rush of '14.
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Thomas Beaber
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In a few months I will no longer care. I will have all the "rares" proxied.
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Jacob Bazar
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Personally, I see no ethical issue with using proxies.

They couldn't even be bothered to use different art for the different rarities plus they choose the intelligence-insulting collectible model.
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Mitchell Miller
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Soldan wrote:
In a few months I will no longer care. I will have all the "rares" proxied.


Good for you :-)
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David Lockwood
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As far as I am aware, at official tournaments they don't allow proxies.

However as for playing with buddies, if he/she doesn't allow it, your friend is being a d-bag.
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Ben Bailey
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Sadly I find myself $120 deep and still missing 2 super rares, 17 rares 3 uncommons and 7 dice. with more spare dice, uncommons and common cards than I know what to do with (all are useless). with only 7 extra rares that seem to be worth anything to my local trade community. I am finished buying boosters to only find 2 commons in a pack to throw away. Even buying a gravity feed only averages 10 rares, 34 uncommons 1 super rare and too many commons. even then I seem to get the same rares I already have. I give up!
 
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I think people are getting too wrapped up in the idea of having every card. I don't think you need to do that to enjoy the game.
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TheWaspinator wrote:
I think people are getting too wrapped up in the idea of having every card. I don't think you need to do that to enjoy the game.


It's a bit like saying I can't play Magic unless I own every card first, or even Netrunner - buying every datapack so you can enjoy the game. Madness
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Thomas Beaber
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JoyrexJ9 wrote:
sayeWaspinator wrote:
I think people are getting too wrapped up in the idea of having every card. I don't think you need to do that to enjoy the game.


It's a bit like saying I can't play Magic unless I own every card first, or even Netrunner - buying every datapack so you can enjoy the game. Madness


Netrunner is balanced out of the box. Dicemasters not so much as it should have been a non-collectable with frequent expansions. The collectable model gets it into target next to the heroclix grav feeds though.

 
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Thomas Beaber
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Also it is very hard to explore the meta without all the cards.
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I just bought 1 box (proxying the starter until I can nab one). There was a super friendly guy at my shop that was missing only 3 rares, and I got 1 of them. I traded him for a different rare I didn't have and he had a duplicate of and he gave me 10 uncommons with 2 dice each. Now all I am "missing" is 1 uncommon, 20 rares, and 3 SR. But having like 75 options (not counting the starter) is plenty.

The rares don't denote power in this, so its not like I'm missing all the power cards. I don't see how spending even $40 more is worth atempting to get 24 more cards. After several sets of this game are released, I will have WAY more cards than I would know what to with.

I think trying to get all of them, especially the people who bought 8 boxes, is going to burn out alot of people.

My recommendation is to buy 1 box and have fun. If you like tournament play, then you should be able to grab any singles you need. And people are bleeding dice at my comic shop... I expect to see a box of them behind the counter for like 10cents each soon.
 
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