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Joel Stair
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How about this ships action?

http://www.startrek.com/article/first-look-borg-tactical-cub...
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The named, plus unnamed, plus blind buy fleet seems like it might be a pretty damn good fleet.... (90 points +30blind)
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yep i was just talking to my Bother a few sec after this one when up and its going to be crazy BORG time
 
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Wow. I am impressed. That is one scary Borg ship.
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Tactical Cube 138 (46)
Kirk (7)
I stab at thee (4)
I stab at thee (4)
Self Destruct Sequence (5)
Flavor (up to 13 points)

Fighters (20)

99 points and hopefully initiative, I'd call this list "where's the boom?" and print out a marvin the martian captain chit
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Thomas Landy
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That thing is a monster!
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Conversations at design time:

Conversation 1

1st Designer:

What can we do for weapons though it's already got 6 attack basic?

Borg Fanboy Designer:

I know we'll give it a 9 dice attack that can be split between 3 ships so that you can't even consider taking Swarms against it.

Oh, that's still not enough.

I know lets give it an attack that can let it cause up to 4APT's in one go, but that's not enough, so we'll still let the hits be able to take out shields as well.

Conversation 2

1st Designer:

I like I stab at thee can we do something similar.

Borg Fanboy Designer:

I know how about an I Stab at Thee that's 3 times as powerful with over 9 times the area of effect.

1st Designer:

Does that seem a little powerful?

Borg Fanboy Designer:

Oh, all right! Tell you what they can roll dice against it if they have a scan token and we'll make it an action so it doesn't happen straight away.

1st Designer:

That seems more reasonable what should we cost it?

Borg Fanboy Designer:

Well I Stab at Thee is 3 and this is 3 times as strong with about 9 times the chance of hitting plus we've weakened it a little.

How about 5 points, that sounds fair.


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Slightly, tongue in cheek but (IMO) valid concerns.



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And it should be. It's a Borg cube...

Of course, the unbalanced thread should be starting in 5....4....3...
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Well, at least you can try to run away from it before it explodes (since you know it is coming, and it can't move or perform any actions). Range 1-2 would have been nicer

And it isn't Borg only!
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So if one decided to double up on Ablative Hull Armor, you can get the 60 point monster people were "expecting" with effectively the following stats:

6
0
9
16

Yeah, I'm loving this thing and cannot wait to adjust my Sphere build into the following:

Tactical Cube 138 (46)
Picard "Locutus" (7)
Starter Miles (3)
Ablative Hull Armor x2 (14)
Feedback Pulse (8)

Federation "Assimilated" fighters (20)

May consider dropping Feedback Pulse for Full Assault and Captured Intelligence.
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I just SMH at all these people that play STAW and I'm just amazed at how mad they get at the Borg just wait and see the Enterprise-E will be amazing but it wasn't at Wolf 359 so we will see its POWER in the 2nd Borg OP and it will be thing for the movie and show it will be amazing but for now this is the NEW BoF like it or not this is the new Meta.
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SteRT wrote:

I know lets give it an attack that can let it cause up to 4APT's in one go, but that's not enough, so we'll still let the hits be able to take out shields as well.

I'm pretty sure this can only add 1 aux token, I think the per [HIT] [CRIT] wording is only for the shield damage.

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Conversation 2

1st Designer:

I like I stab at thee can we do something similar.

Borg Fanboy Designer:

I know how about an I Stab at Thee that's 3 times as powerful with over 9 times the area of effect.

1st Designer:

Does that seem a little powerful?

Borg Fanboy Designer:

Oh, all right! Tell you what they can roll dice against it if they have a scan token and we'll make it an action so it doesn't happen straight away.


It's unmoded dice, plus the fact if they kill you before the end of the next activation phase, you're not going to get it off. It's strong but looks like it could be hard to pull off, I have a feeling we are going to see this about as much as suicide attack.

I will agree at first look Full assault does seems a little under pointed.

 
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Wow, that Tactical Drone is shockingly worse than the Tactical Drone in the Sphere. Unless you really wanted two extra drone tokens for other upgrades, you'd be absolutely crazy to take him over the Sphere Tac Drone.


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Woah, Borg missile. Expensive but pretty awesome.
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I missed this my first read through

While Tactical Cube 138 sports a larger sized base than any ship before it, players should be aware that should the final position of its base overlap another ship, it does not lose its “Perform Action” Step if that ship has a Hull value of 6 or less.
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Yeah, Tac Drone 2.0 is really bad, unless you want a couple more tokens to fuel ass tubes and stuff and already have/don't want to pay for the Queen.
 
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Hurray, finally something that can take on the Borg sphere! shake
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PaladinH wrote:
Hurray, finally something that can take on the Borg sphere! shake



+ 1 LOL


can wiz kids please provide the list they "Play tested" the borg against so i can have my "balanced" game.
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TheLimey wrote:
And it should be. It's a Borg cube...

Of course, the unbalanced thread should be starting in 5....4....3...


*Grabs his popcorn*
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Huh. You'd think this would be the release _with_ a Locutus...
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One wonders where they'll fit him in.

Maybe they'll buck expectations and make him a crew upgrade.
 
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Sue Dohnim
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Did someone say Gencon promo card?

No, no they did not.
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Vote Kodos wrote:
Did someone say Gencon promo card?

No, no they did not.


That's actually a pretty plausible bit of speculation.
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I for one am glad this thing is powerul, it had a 2x2 base so it will be getting shot up alot - its huge base is a factor in its balance guys.



As or people talking about This reminds me of when Stormwall made an appearance in Warmachine and people went crazy for a few months before people got use to facing it.

As this game continues I think people might have to adopt seperate lists to deal with other lists.

Enter - List Chicken!



I'll take 2 Wizkids, this thing is awesome.
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Vote Kodos wrote:
Huh. You'd think this would be the release _with_ a Locutus...


Maybe they are saving Locutus for the Queen's Diamond. Hey! Get out of my ride! Only if you get out of mine...
 
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