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The title is the suggestion meeple

Of course, filling this field should be voluntary.

Background: Usually - for various reasons - I am interested in how old a certain user is. I wrote that information on my profile page, but having a space for it is surely an invitation for other users to do so and could also be nice for automated geeky birthday greetings.
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PzVIE wrote:
The title is the suggestion meeple

Of course, filling this field should be voluntary.

Background: Usually - for various reasons - I am interested in how old a certain user is. I wrote that information on my profile page, but having a space for it is surely an invitation for other users to do so and could also be nice for automated geeky birthday greetings.


No way! That is personal information that could be used in identity theft. There are spiders crawling all over the web putting personal info together. Why make it easy?
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herace wrote:
No way! That is personal information that could be used in identity theft. There are spiders crawling all over the web putting personal info together. Why make it easy?

One might say the same about people's names and cities/states/countries...
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PzVIE wrote:


Of course, filling this field should be voluntary.


As voluntary as giving away your name, country, state, city or whatever, as Russ already stated meeple
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There's also a slew of microbadges ... whistle

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There's also a slew of microbadges ... whistle


I know, I already bought mine. But not everyone has 8 meeple
 
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russ wrote:
herace wrote:
No way! That is personal information that could be used in identity theft. There are spiders crawling all over the web putting personal info together. Why make it easy?

One might say the same about people's names and cities/states/countries...

None of that is anywhere near as sensitive as date of birth. Including this feature exposes people to risk. It sounds far-fetched until you have the horrible experience of having your identity stolen, and then it becomes serious.

EDIT: Typo.
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PzVIE wrote:
LudesFactor wrote:


There's also a slew of microbadges ... whistle


I know, I already bought mine. But not everyone has 8 meeple

Happy birthday, Ron!

If you'd want it as a voluntary field, I suppose that's fine, but no thanks for me. I just had my birthdate (and every other piece of personally identifiable information) stolen from eBay. Lesson learned. I'm steering clear of providing that data point in the future.

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PzVIE wrote:
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Of course, filling this field should be voluntary.


As voluntary as giving away your name, country, state, city or whatever, as Russ already stated meeple


Being a nervous nellie, I would worry that such information would make BGG itself more of target for hacking. Many folks are using their real name somewhere in the account. With name, address, and birthdate that is a lot of personal information. So even if I don't my birth date isn't in BGG, the fact that others are would increase my risk.

Name and address are in phone book if you have a landline. So that information alone doesn't make BGG much of a target.

BGG also doesn't keep and credit card numbers. Again no reason to target BGG.

Remember safes are only rated for how long it takes a safe cracker to get in. All safes can be cracked. Just a matter of time and effort to do so. So if a hacker is willing to spend time and money to crack a site, then it can be done. The only way to avoid that is to absolutely require physical access to a secured site too.
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herace wrote:
PzVIE wrote:
PzVIE wrote:


Of course, filling this field should be voluntary.


As voluntary as giving away your name, country, state, city or whatever, as Russ already stated meeple


Being a nervous nellie, I would worry that such information would make BGG itself more of target for hacking. Many folks are using their real name somewhere in the account. With name, address, and birthdate that is a lot of personal information. So even if I don't my birth date isn't in BGG, the fact that others are would increase my risk.

Name and address are in phone book if you have a landline. So that information alone doesn't make BGG much of a target.

BGG also doesn't keep and credit card numbers. Again no reason to target BGG.

Remember safes are only rated for how long it takes a safe cracker to get in. All safes can be cracked. Just a matter of time and effort to do so. So if a hacker is willing to spend time and money to crack a site, then it can be done. The only way to avoid that is to absolutely require physical access to a secured site too.


So is this a bad time for me to suggest voluntary profile fields for users' Social Security Numbers and mother's maiden names?
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So is this a bad time for me to suggest voluntary profile fields for users' Social Security Numbers and mother's maiden names?

Only if you forget to add bank account numbers, passwords, comprehensive health history, and criminal records. That's the only way to put the information in context.
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Yeah, this is a sad world we live in these days.
Last year I finished writing up my dissertation. In the Biographical Sketch for the end of the document I wrote the city and country of my birth. The graduate school editorial office told me to take that out b/c of identity thieves.
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While I understand some of the points you guys made, I really see no harm in adding a simple date input field.

There's a Ron, born ín '65, living in Austria, having an impressive game collection. No address, no phone, no CC, no eMail ... you don't even know if Ron is my real first name! I voluntarily give away some more information on my profile page, but again, you don't know if any of it is true. Heck, you don't even know if my game collection really exists!

I usually - no always - try to maintain my anonymity on the net ... but I always had the impression that the display of my age is useless information for criminal minds ... especially when you can't correlate it with my real name or address.
Although, I maybe wrong here ... meeple
 
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PzVIE wrote:
While I understand some of the points you guys made, I really see no harm in adding a simple date input field.

There's a Ron, born ín '65, living in Austria, having an impressive game collection. No address, no phone, no CC, no eMail ... you don't even know if Ron is my real first name! I voluntarily give away some more information on my profile page, but again, you don't know if any of it is true. Heck, you don't even know if my game collection really exists!

I usually - no always - try to maintain my anonymity on the net ... but I always had the impression that the display of my age is useless information for criminal minds ... especially when you can't correlate it with my real name or address.
Although, I maybe wrong here ... meeple


Your IP address is an identifier. Spiders look at bits and pieces here and there and put a dossier together.
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Your IP address is an identifier. Spiders look at bits and pieces here and there and put a dossier together.

Spiders don't need IP addresses. They use information which is much harder to camouflage: your browser's version string, your OS, a list of installed fonts on your computer, the screen resolution, ... All of which combined yields a sufficiently unique and persistent identifier.
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cymric wrote:
They use information which is much harder to camouflage: your browser's version string, your OS, a list of installed fonts on your computer, the screen resolution, ... All of which combined yields a sufficiently unique and persistent identifier.

For an interesting demonstration of this:
https://panopticlick.eff.org/
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LOL - I just created a second account for a project and you have to enter "some" birthday to "prove" you're over 13. Don't think you can edit it again.
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herace wrote:
LOL - I just created a second account for a project and you have to enter "some" birthday to "prove" you're over 13. Don't think you can edit it again.

I wonder if the entered date is permanently recorded or just used temporarily to legally give you the ability to create an account.
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Ron.. Your collection exist.. In my apartment.. I stole it last night ninja Muhahah devil

I'm not that cantankerous. If people know I'm 24 or not, it doesn't really matter to me. I would fill it if I had the option, since somebody might find it interesting/useful to know how old I am. As long as it would be voluntary, I can't see the problem. Don't add it to your profile, if you don't want to.
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