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Just watched Shut Up and Sit Down's Mega Game Episode

http://www.shutupandsitdown.com/blog/post/susd-play-goddamn-...

And I'm looking for a game that scratches that itch, but is still contained and straight forward like Diplomacy. Maybe with a bit more spy stuff, or economic stuff.

I like Diplomacy, just looking for something . . . deeper.

Thanks!
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Game of Thrones 2nd edition is easily described as "Diplomacy, with more stuff going on." Check out some reviews.
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Machiavelli

Same basic idea with more economics on top.
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Struggle of Empires has a wonderful alliance mechanic at the beginning of each (of 3) wars. Check it out. I think it might be what you're looking for.
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Hivemind wrote:
Machiavelli

Same basic idea with more economics on top.

Oh, good one. I haven't though about that game in years.
 
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The Eye wrote:
Game of Thrones 2nd edition is easily described as "Diplomacy, with more stuff going on." Check out some reviews.

I'd second Game of Thrones -- especially (but not exclusively) if you're a fan of the show/books. For me, it's more interesting than Diplomacy, which is a bit too dry for my taste (great game though).
 
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Warrior Knights fills the bill. You could also try and look into Rex, although it gives you less liberty.
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I came here to rec Games of Thrones and Struggle of Empires. Has already been represented so add a +1 from me.
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Hivemind wrote:
Machiavelli

Same basic idea with more economics on top.


This is the one. Its a step up in complexity from dip but it is the same combat system.

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I agree with the first responder: Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition) is pretty much a bigger Diplomacy.

It appears complex at first, but really it all comes down to what Diplomacy is all about.. yes, it can ruin friendships.
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BimmyJim wrote:
I agree with the first responder: Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition) is pretty much a bigger Diplomacy.

It appears complex at first, but really it all comes down to what Diplomacy is all about.. yes, it can ruin friendships.

I agree -- it's not as complicated as it seems. But the first couple turns do tend to take a bit longer while people figure things out. And it's not as frienship-ruining as Diplomacy can be (IMO). Maybe it's because it tends to be more about timely back-stabbing in order to grab a key location, instead of completely wiping people out.

Which is another thing I like about the game... When someone controls enough castles/strongholds, the game immediately ends. Or after the 10th turn. So player elimination typically doesn't happen, and you don't need to conquer the entire realm.
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Having played in megagames, two games I felt offered a similar experience (ie lots of negotiations) with smaller numbers of players are Mid-East Peace and Junta. A friend once organised a game of Mid-East Peace with a dozen players and it worked very well.

What you ideally want is limited rules and a framework for team interaction.
 
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Republic of Rome, Civilization, Junta
 
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