Glen Nielsen
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I posted this over on FFG's forums as well, but I'd like as many opinions as I can get.

So I'm entering an AOIA event tomorrow, but I'm relatively new to the game. I originally was going to use the Biggs Walks The Dog build I saw Paul Heaver win with at Worlds, but I got in a pretty decent order today and considering changing it up. I've only had a few games with the XXBB, and the other night I played a game with Dual Falcons. I've gotten various views on this from looking around, some being ok with it, others making it sound cheap. I played a friend with it and did pretty well against Wedge, Luke and Biggs, but I've only played the one game with it. The list I used was:



Chewie with Draw Their Fire, Recon Specialist, Millennium Falcon and Anti-Pursuit Lasers.

Lando with Push The Limit, Recon Specialist and Nien Nunb.


Now with this game I found the APL pretty usesless and never activated them once. I did the side of the board train up and down and never really got rammed. Would this be more viable in a mainstream (ish) event? Or would something like this work better:


Chewie with Push The Limit, Recon Specialist and Millennium Falcon.

Lando with Push The Limit, Recon Specialist and Nien Nunb.


Is this viable in the current meta? Or should I go back to the XXBB? I also got in some Interceptors, with a list I saw on here I was thinking of running:


Soontir Fel with Push The Limit and Targeting Computer.

Carnor Jax with Push The Limit.

Tetran Cowell with Push The Limit.

Academy Pilot.


The Interceptors seem like they'd be a lot more of an advanced Squadron to fly and I have 0 games under my belt with them (though I'm hoping to get some more games in the next few days, specifically with whichever squadron I settle on). Any opinions or advice here would be awesome and greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance guys.


I should probably also mention what I have access to. I have 2 Core sets, 1 A-Wing, 2 B-Wings, 1 X-Wing, 1 HWK, 1 TIE Advanced, 1 TIE Fighter, 1 TIE Interceptor, 2 Millennium Falcons, 1 Slave I, 2 Lambda Shuttle and 1 Imperial Aces.
 
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Jeff Paul
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X-wing strategy is about 40% how you build your fleet and 60% how you fly your fleet.

Almost any build can do well if you fly it well - which essentially means to fly its strengths against your opponent's weaknesses.

Don't fly a few ship maneuverable build into the teeth of a swarm.

So, if you've flown XXBB against a lot of different builds, and have fun flying it, I'd go with that.

If you want to try a challenge, go with the Soontir and friends.

The dual Falcon build is a glass cannon. If your dice are not, you'll do well. As long as your opponent doesn't know what he is doing.

So, all are good builds. I'd go with what you're comfortable with.

PS the current meta varies dramatically from place to place. Almost everything is a valid build, it's just that sometimes groupthink takes over and certain builds are believed to be unstoppable.
 
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Glen Nielsen
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Yeah, I'm really not terribly sure what the meta would be like in my area. I like the Interceptors and would like to at least try them at some point, but not sure I want to bring it into a tournament with no practice. I've flow the XXBB no more than 4 times, but I do like them, and now knowing how to properly use Advanced Sensors, I think I'll like them a lot more so I plan to play some games with them tonight. As for Falcons, I did find them interesting but feel they could be tweaked differently from how I have them for the way I flew them in the one game I played with them.

Really, I'm leaning towards the Falcons and the XXBB, but I'm not terribly sure. I should probably get a decision made ASAP so I can practice before tomorrow haha.
 
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Push The Limit isn't very good on falcons in my opinion. That makes their moves extremy predictable. In my mind the main idea of falcon is to get it out of enemy fire arc ; itself can always shoot. So I see Expert Handling (pilot skill) & Engine Upgrade (Modification) better choices for falcons. However I see at least one player using PTLs in Falcons and doing well (although he has not flied falcons, in my mind doing well also indicates building ok lists http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v2!35:18,-1,38,-1:-1:-1:;34:18,-1,38,-1:2:-1: ).

Interceptor list is ok, though what I see in Vassal tourney lists is to use extra points to Shield Upgrades and leave Acadamy Pilot home.
 
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Double falcons is fantastic, push is wonderful, but you don't need to use it all the time for the list to work. I like to put weapon's Engineer on lando, so that he can have a target lock floating around and not need to push the limit all the time.
 
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Soontir and friends is a good list, but you really have to bait them into falling for a trap. I was able to go 2-1 today at an Imdaar event, taking out a biggs/dogs list and 4x gray squadrons with ion cannons.

The gray squadron was amazingly close, he ran over an asteroid for his final damage and all that I had left was an untouched Academy tie. That match was one for the record books, dice swung both ways, ahead/behind switched up multiple times.

Against biggs/dogs? You have to bait 'em. My Biggs opponent took the Carnor Jax bait, and as I screamed by his 2 b's and the rookie he let out a frustrated sigh. I tapped my shirt (ackbar - its a trap!) and then it sunk in to him how he just got swindled. I've fallen for the Soontir trap before, and practiced a couple times with Soontir and friends. Its a fun list to fly but its nerve wracking I'm sure on both ends!

My nephew flew a double falcon list and lost to the same person I lost to: Ib with some shenanigans. Jan I think, and opportunist. 6 dice from HLC is rough! I think he had wes in his list too.

Anyway, the point is to fly what you can pilot successfully. You have to go against different lists to formulate a strategy for each. At the very least, you should have a strategy for and against all of the lists you're thinking of flying, no matter which one you choose.
 
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