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It's a testament to the greatness of Fallout: NV and Skyrim that even though they're always running at less than 25 FPS, locking up at load screens, or randomly crashing, I still thoroughly enjoy playing them.
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I really need to pick up new vegas one of these days... have to go see what it's going for on steam.
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jeffreyac wrote:
I really need to pick up new vegas one of these days... have to go see what it's going for on steam.

According to price trends, the game has dropped as low as $2.50 on Steam. Wait for the annual summer sale.
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braveheart101 wrote:
It's a testament to the greatness of Fallout: NV and Skyrim that ... I still thoroughly enjoy playing them.




I loved Fallout 3. It was my first video RPG. I played all the DLC as well. For some reason I decided to create a character who was physically the opposite of me. Thus...


And I've been fighting like a girl ever since. Both my main Skyrim chars are women.


And in Defiance



Well except in New Vegas, where the character looks kinda like me kinda a little. No pix.
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Fallout 3 is awesome. Fallout: New Vegas is awesome too, but a different kind of awesome.

Fallout 3 has you really engaged with the character you are playing. Fallout NV: does not have that character immersion, but the world is much better constructed, and you can actually influence what happens in the world to a much greater extent.

You need both games.

With DLC (though you might want to avoid the spaceship DLC for Fallout 3, and the Dead Money DLC for New Vegas. Not only do both of these SUCK, but when you have started them, you HAVE to finish them before you can continue with the main game. And they are looooooong.)
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With DLC (though you might want to avoid the spaceship DLC for Fallout 3, and the Dead Money DLC for New Vegas. Not only do both of these SUCK, but when you have started them, you HAVE to finish them before you can continue with the main game. And they are looooooong.)


Hmmm - can install, but not play it, or something? I was planning on getting one of the steam all-inclusive bundles, which I believe contain both of those.

Eh, there's probably a steam checkbox somewhere to let me install everything but that one...
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braveheart101 wrote:
It's a testament to the greatness of Fallout: NV and Skyrim that ... I still thoroughly enjoy playing them.




I loved Fallout 3. It was my first video RPG. I played all the DLC as well. For some reason I decided to create a character who was physically the opposite of me. Thus...


And I've been fighting like a girl ever since. Both my main Skyrim chars are women.


And in Defiance



Well except in New Vegas, where the character looks kinda like me kinda a little. No pix.


Heh, I tend to prefer playing as women in RPGs as well. I mean, come on, Femshep is a total badass - there's a reason I named mine Ripley.
My main NV characters look like hispanic Jennifer Lawrence and macho Will Wheaton.

And BTW, I loved Dead Money! So there!
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I have never finished a Fallout or Elder Scrolls game. I get bored after a few hours of walking to somewhere.
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Fallout NV: does not have that character immersion, but the world is much better constructed, and you can actually influence what happens in the world to a much greater extent.


It's true. I got to a major decision pathway and had an attack of indecisiveness. I've not gotten back to the NV story line but one of the DLC was a drag. I do play NV in the mode where one has to eat, drink and sleep and one does not heal by sleeping. It increases my immersion even when it's a PITA.

I wish FO3 and Skyrim had that option.
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braveheart101 wrote:
It's a testament to the greatness of Fallout: NV and Skyrim that even though they're always running at less than 25 FPS, locking up at load screens, or randomly crashing, I still thoroughly enjoy playing them.


Are you playing on console? It seems like console gamers spend an inordinate amount of time stressing over the framerate of games. On ShackNews, back when I frequented the site, you'd always see people asking "Uh, is it running at 30 FPS?"

In fairness, way back in the early days of videocards and PC gaming, I worried about it a lot more. Not so much anymore, thankfully.

If you're playing on PC you could consider an upgrade as most videocards now have cheaper versions that still work pretty darn well at high resolutions!

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Sidenote - shouldn't this be posted at VGG instead?
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wytefang wrote:
Sidenote - shouldn't this be posted at VGG instead?


Why? This is Chit Chat.
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scribidinus wrote:
And I've been fighting like a girl ever since. Both my main Skyrim chars are women.


Perhaps this will be a source of ire for some, but I always create female characters. I figure if I'm staring at a butt, virtual or not, for 100+ hours it won't be male.
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mlcarter815 wrote:
wytefang wrote:
Sidenote - shouldn't this be posted at VGG instead?


Why? This is Chit Chat.



I've been thinking about starting a "Do You Fight Like A Girl?" thread in VGG but haven't overcome the inertia.
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My Defiance char bears a strong resemblance to my regular cultural companion. Especially the hair color and style. I was playing her in a group with my sons and one of their friends and I was wearing something the rebel journalist mission reward out fit. It's low cut. And the friend said, "I can't take my eyes off your Dad's tits." It was awkwardly funny.
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locusshifter wrote:
scribidinus wrote:
And I've been fighting like a girl ever since. Both my main Skyrim chars are women.


Perhaps this will be a source of ire for some, but I always create female characters. I figure if I'm staring at a butt, virtual or not, for 100+ hours it won't be male.


This is word-for-word what some of my other gaming buddies have said, especially in re: Mass Effect. We men can be sad, sad creatures.

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braveheart101 wrote:
It's a testament to the greatness of Fallout: NV and Skyrim that even though they're always running at less than 25 FPS, locking up at load screens, or randomly crashing, I still thoroughly enjoy playing them.


Are you playing on console? It seems like console gamers spend an inordinate amount of time stressing over the framerate of games. On ShackNews, back when I frequented the site, you'd always see people asking "Uh, is it running at 30 FPS?"

In fairness, way back in the early days of videocards and PC gaming, I worried about it a lot more. Not so much anymore, thankfully.

If you're playing on PC you could consider an upgrade as most videocards now have cheaper versions that still work pretty darn well at high resolutions!



I'm playing on a standard-issue Dell Latitude D630 laptop. My CPU is typically only running at 20% to 50%-70% tops,, so I'm good there. But I definitely need a better videocard - all I've got is an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M. I've heard good things about the Nvidia 570, so I might install that plus 2 more GBs of RAM (only have 2 right now).

Of course, I'm perfectly content playing all of my games at the lowest graphics settings, so the 570 might be waaay overkill.
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Hmmm - can install, but not play it, or something? I was planning on getting one of the steam all-inclusive bundles, which I believe contain both of those.

Yes, you can install them.

The Dead Money DLC can be avoided if you want; you simply do not travel to the starting location and you're good. Someone above recommends Dead Money, though, so you might wish to give it a shot. But I recommend that you make a separate save before you start it up, because after 5 hours in Dead Money I wished I could break it off, but I had to suffer through 10 more hours of that garbage.

Compared to the Fallout 3 spaceship DLC, Dead Money is pretty good, though. That spaceship DLC is incredibly boring. And the problem is that you are dragged into that spaceship without the ability to stop it. So what can I say? If you get dragged into that ship, save, return to the last autosave before you boarded, save again there so that you have a spot to return to, then see whether you like the DLC better than I did.
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mlcarter815 wrote:
wytefang wrote:
Sidenote - shouldn't this be posted at VGG instead?


Why? This is Chit Chat.


Because we have an ENTIRE SITE devoted to this hobby.
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locusshifter wrote:
Perhaps this will be a source of ire for some, but I always create female characters. I figure if I'm staring at a butt, virtual or not, for 100+ hours it won't be male.


In a similar vein, I tend to make characters with no features which are difficult to model realistically. If I'm going to be staring at the back of a head for a full game, I'd rather it be a realish-looking shaven head than a badly-rendered haircut which ought to move but doesn't.
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