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4 (Belgian) Troop, 10 (Inter-Allied) Commando was assigned to the British 5th Infantry Division for the landing at Anzio. What colour would you make their counter?
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Kluvon wrote:
4 (Belgian) Troop, 10 (Inter-Allied) Commando was assigned to the British 5th Infantry Division for the landing at Anzio. What colour would you make their counter?

Hot Pink? Is this a quiz?
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4 (Belgian) Troop, 10 (Inter-Allied) Commando was assigned to the British 5th Infantry Division for the landing at Anzio. What colour would you make their counter?

Hot Pink? Is this a quiz?


Hahaha!

No, I'm seriously wondering what is appropriate.
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4 (Belgian) Troop, 10 (Inter-Allied) Commando was assigned to the British 5th Infantry Division for the landing at Anzio. What colour would you make their counter?


They wore British Army uniforms and fought under British command. I'd keep them the same colour as the British, and hopefully you would use the same rules for them as for the other British units. In other words, no need for special rules, unless you have some historical data that suggests they should?

Different coloured counters usually signal special rules, don't they? Or to aid in command-control rules. The Waffen-SS in SL and some ASL modules were done in black not just for their striking appearance, but because they actually had different rules applying to things like ability to take prisoners, broken-side morale, etc., that were slightly different than regular German Army troops.
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Khaki, or whatever color all the other British counters are. I'd say black, but that's used for SS so often, or red, but I associate that more with the paras. So that leave gold, if you consider the Belgian national colors. Or you could go with khaki/brown/tan, I like that option best.
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Mike, this is my thought, too, but I don't want to offend any Belgians.

EDIT: Andrew, good to hear from you, too.
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the belgian football (soccer) is kknown as the red devils so red would seem right, but if you are using NATO symbols just use a red border or a belgian flag with a british base color.
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Make them the same color as the British. But find some way of distinguishing them...color the unit symbol, put a stripe through the counter, or something like that.
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J.L.Robert wrote:
But find some way of distinguishing them


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Mallet wrote:
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But find some way of distinguishing them


Mussels and Fries ?


Roger, as a Canadian, what colour do you think should be the US-Canadian Special Service Forces counters?
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J.L.Robert wrote:
Make them the same color as the British. But find some way of distinguishing them...color the unit symbol, put a stripe through the counter, or something like that.


Same color as the unit, different colored text always works.
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Kluvon wrote:
Mallet wrote:
J.L.Robert wrote:
But find some way of distinguishing them


Mussels and Fries ?


Roger, as a Canadian, what colour do you think should be the US-Canadian Special Service Forces counters?




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Kluvon wrote:
Mike, this is my thought, too, but I don't want to offend any Belgians.


[insert appropriate Monty Python quote HERE]
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Mike, this is my thought, too, but I don't want to offend any Belgians.
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Belgian chocolate-coat this, for: "G-R-E-A-T-E-S-T JUST `CAUSE!" whistle
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Mallet wrote:
J.L.Robert wrote:
But find some way of distinguishing them


Mussels and Fries ?


Announcing the new Mussels and Pike Series!
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Belgian chocolate-coat this, for: "G-R-E-A-T-E-S-T JUST `CAUSE!" whistle


Once again Grogs hits the nail on the head - the Belgians should be (Belgian) Chocolate Brown in colour!
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Kluvon wrote:
Mike, this is my thought, too, but I don't want to offend any Belgians.

EDIT: Andrew, good to hear from you, too.


One of the sergeants-major in my unit told a story about his time with a multi-national force overseas. He fought in Afghanistan but as I recall, it may have been from earlier service in the former Yugoslavia, where a number of nationalities had also contributed contingents.

The details are fuzzy but as I recall he was in a base area or perhaps a leave centre and at the time was an NCO in charge of movie night. Everyone spoke English so he wanted to pick something that wouldn't - as you point out - "offend" anyone.

He decided that Austin Powers in Goldmember would be perfect - so over the top that it would be an "equal opportunity offender", so to speak. It poked fun at everyone. Things went fine until this line:



For some reason, the members of the Dutch contingent that were present took extreme offence at the line, and in all seriousness stormed out of the room in a rage.

As my sergeant-major told the story to me, it was all the more baffling because they were members of what would be considered an elite unit, well motivated, trained, physically fit - he had a hard time reconciling what he had thought was an innocuous line in the film to the level of insult they had felt. Particularly since, from his perspective, the joke was not at the expense of Dutch people. But it goes to show, sometimes, you just can't predict what people will find offensive, particularly across cultures.
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I've always considered that line very funny but I do understand that people who're not the ostensible target of such remarks always seem to find it funnier than those that are.
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Quick, name a famous Dutch comedian.
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Quick, name a famous Dutch comedian.
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I'm thinking the color of Belgium chocolate.



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J.L.Robert wrote:
Make them the same color as the British. But find some way of distinguishing them...color the unit symbol, put a stripe through the counter, or something like that.

I like this idea. NATO made the Belgians khaki with gold symbols and the Canadians green with white symbols.
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The color of flem.
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4 (Belgian) Troop, 10 (Inter-Allied) Commando was assigned to the British 5th Infantry Division for the landing at Anzio. What colour would you make their counter?


They wore British Army uniforms and fought under British command. I'd keep them the same colour...


but with a waffle pattern.
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For some reason, the members of the Dutch contingent that were present took extreme offence at the line, and in all seriousness stormed out of the room in a rage.

As my sergeant-major told the story to me, it was all the more baffling because they were members of what would be considered an elite unit, well motivated, trained, physically fit - he had a hard time reconciling what he had thought was an innocuous line in the film to the level of insult they had felt. Particularly since, from his perspective, the joke was not at the expense of Dutch people. But it goes to show, sometimes, you just can't predict what people will find offensive, particularly across cultures.


Well, if this story is true, I'm underestimating the level of indoctrination in Dutch army training. I can't imagine anyone in the Netherlands being offended by this line. Surely didn't prevent this movie from being a success over here when it was released.
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