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Does it annoy you too? I mean, of course game makers couldn't foresee everything, but when 90% of games are played with user-mods, somethings amiss. I mean, for example, most Arkham Horror monster tokens from expansions get felt-tip pen markings on their edges to distinguish them since otherwise it's impossible to tell which one belongs where. Adequate packing for a game is also an issue. I always thought that you shouldn't have to make/buy your own storing boxes for bits, minis, cards and tokens. Also, self-made reference cards - why the designer didn't do it or didn't do it right?
 
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I've always assumed it's a cost issue. At some point they have to stop adding things before said additions drive the cost of the game too high. Sure a simple reference card is not a big deal in itself, but these things do add up.

There's also the issue that not everyone does this; it may seem like a lot to you from anecdotal evidence or even the amount of people on BGG that do so, but overall I suspect most games are played as-is. And the ones that do mod are not all using the same mod, so there's that to consider as well.
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By 90% I meant not the percentage of all existing games, but more like 90% of copies of a particular game are played like that. Of course, most games are played out-of-the-box, but some 'offenders' are almost always modded. FFG is notorious for lack of storage compartments in their boxes, for example.
 
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Game designers figured out that in order to make money they just had to make useless inserts and use the savings to buy stock* in Plano Molding.

*Plano Molding does not appear to be publicly traded, but I still think this is a solid strategy,
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most Arkham Horror monster tokens from expansions get felt-tip pen markings on their edges to distinguish them since otherwise it's impossible to tell which one belongs where


I have never drawn on any of the game components (with the exception of Saint Malo ) so I don't really understand what you mean. Each arkham horror expansion has its own symbol to help you distinguish between expansions.

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I always thought that you shouldn't have to make/buy your own storing boxes for bits, minis, cards and tokens.


Not everybody stores their games the same way and I for one would have no use for storage boxes for bits, chits and minis etc and so would just chuck 'em out.
That said I do sleeve cards that are regularly handled but I find the majority of boxes especially FFG boxes are large enough to accommodate sleeved cards



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Isn't pimiping your game part of the fun?



 
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So? It could be an option, instead of necessity.
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Reason 1: cost. Adding plano boxes, sleeves, plastic baggies and high-quality inserts would, sadly, drive the costs through the roof.
Reason 2: there is no one storage system that everyone enjoys, so someone would still trash whatever the publisher put in there and make something of their own.

About those felt-tip markings on AH monsters, I've no idea what you're even talking about. How are you sorting your monsters? (and why are you sorting them at all?)
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Iori_Yagami wrote:
So? It could be an option, instead of necessity.


It IS an option and there really is NO necessity.
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Iori_Yagami wrote:
By 90% I meant not the percentage of all existing games, but more like 90% of copies of a particular game are played like that. Of course, most games are played out-of-the-box, but some 'offenders' are almost always modded. FFG is notorious for lack of storage compartments in their boxes, for example.

I doubt there is a regular game that even 90% of BGG users modify because it is inadequate, let alone in the rest of the world. The only thing that comes close would be those that have lots of expansions that don't fit in the main box. There might be a solid core of ten or so people on the specific game forum who modify their game in the same way, but they are still in a tiny minority.
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exparrot wrote:
Each arkham horror expansion has its own symbol to help you distinguish between expansions.


Monster tokens do not have the expansion indicator on them.
 
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