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Each of the past four years, I've run higher value math trades. We've had success with this, and hopefully we can make it five in a row...

If you don't know how a math trade works, please watch this great video guide by by Boathouselooper.

Of course, we need a lower end cutoff here and so I will, somewhat arbitrarily, choose:

ALL ITEMS/PACKAGES IN THIS EVENT MUST HAVE A MINIMUM VALUE OF $60 (U.S) - please note that MSRP will NOT be used.

How will this be determined? See rule #1 below.


Request GeekList: High and Mighty V - A higher value math trade - REQUEST LIST

Trade GeekList: High and Mighty V - A higher value math trade


Use of the On-Line Want List Generator (OLWLG) is required for this event (please remember to tip JeffyJeff some GG for his support).

Key dates (all times are CENTRAL TIME)

Open for posting games: Now until Monday, June 23rd (10pm)

Want list submission period: Monday, June 23rd (10pm) until Friday, June 27th (10pm) - no extensions!

Results posted shortly thereafter.


Do not delete items or sweeteners once you have listed them. Also do not change the entry in any way, other than to clarify something important that you forgot - such as language. Just submit a blank want list for an entry if you've traded it away before the deadline.


The rules - please take a few minutes to read them:

d10-1 In the event of uncertainty, we will use the following mechanism to judge if an item can be included:

In print new games:

Do not use MSRP. Use the lowest available prices from the usual online vendors.

If you know that an item is only available somewhere else, please point that out in your entry.

In print used games or out of print games:

Use the BGG Marketplace history - sold items, not the prices for unsold items.

http://www.spielboy.com/GeekPrices.php

This site will show you the BGG Marketplace history for your game - items not sold in the past year in the Marketplace will be treated more leniently as their value has probably risen.

You can mouse over the sold item to sometimes see notes about version, condition etc.

The moderator reserves the right to make all final decisions on whether or not an entry qualifies.

If you feel someone else's entry does not qualify, please let me know (including the reason). Thank you - your help is appreciated!

Packaging games to get over the $60 value is OK., but make themn good games and don't just scrape past the threshold...

d10-2 Geekgold may be used only as a sweetener and will not count towards the package value.

d10-3 Gift certificates are allowed, but given the fact that shipping affects the value of a GC obtained for a game, no GCs will be allowed below the value of $80, except as a sweetener.

For GCs added as sweetners, the total value of your package must be at least $80 and the value of your GC should not exceed the total value of the game(s) it is paired with.

Other items outside the scope of BGG are permitted if they meet the valuation.

d10-4 Gift certificate arbitrage is NOT allowed. However you may trade an entry that has GG or a GC as a sweetener for another which also has GG or a GC as a sweetener, provided that the other items offered in each entry are entirely different - it's just too hard to police otherwise.

d10-5 As accurately as is reasonably possible, describe the condition (components and box), language and edition of your item in the description. This includes sweeteners if they are physical items.

For games not brand new (in shrink) you must inventory the game's components and list anything missing. Do not assume it's complete. Also, remember that just because something is "new in shrink" that doesn't mean that you shouldn't disclose any dings. It might not matter to you, but it matters to others.

d10-6 Clearly state your shipping policy in your listing. You are required to cover shipping within your own country. For U.S. residents, you are only required to cover shipping within the 48 contiguous states (however I encourage you to ship to Hawaii and Alaska also). You are not required to ship outside of your own country but your shipping restrictions outside of your own country must be clearly stated and if you are not covering full shipping elsewhere, then you must state precisely how much of the actual shipping cost you will cover.

Any ambiguity will be interpreted as generosity on your part. This means that if you don't include a shipping policy, then it is assumed that you will ship anywhere in the world for free!

d10-7 If you've been reported to me as a bad trader, you cannot participate. If you try to, I will remove your entries.

d10-8 Do NOT include links to other games in your entry unless you are actually including them as a sweetener, as this is displayed in a misleading manner by the OLWLG.

d10-9 Subscribe to your entries and respond to questions during the item submission period. People often ask questions of items - most commonly because you have forgotten to state a version, language or shipping policy. You will NOT be able to respond to comments in the GeekList once it is locked down and the want list submission period begins.

Other useful information

Software Used: TradeMaximizer 1.4a with duplicate protection. SEED=1234567, ITERATIONS=100, METRIC=USERS-TRADING


Want list submission

You can start creating your want lists any time after the start of the event.

Please note that it's best to work on your want lists and submit them early - you can always make changes and resubmit later. This will prevent you from being left out entirely if you forget the deadline.

Remember that you may have saved your want lists, but they have NOT been submitted until you press the green button in step 4 and received a confirming Geekmail.

You are not obliged to trade anything you put up for offer. If you offer a game, but see nothing that you are willing to accept for it in trade, you can submit a blank want list for it, or not submit one at all. If, however, you do submit a want list for a game, then it is expected that you will honour any trade that the TradeMaximizer comes up with. You will not receive anything you did not list as acceptable for the game(s) you have offered, so it is important to check your want lists carefully before submitting them to check for errors.

Please note: Sometimes real life intrudes on us unexpectedly. If I'm a little late posting something, please bear with me.

Thanks for reading to the bottom here - you may be in a minority.

So enter lots of items and have fun!

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Deadline-Offers: Monday, June 23rd, 2014, 10:00 PM CDT
Deadline-Wants: Friday, June 27th, 2014, 10:00 PM CDT
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And they're off...!
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Thanks for running this. Been a while since a high ad mighty math trade.
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Dolus wrote:
Thanks for running this. Been a while since a high ad mighty math trade.
You're welcome Travis. I can't do it more often than once a year - it's a lot more work than a normal math trade.
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Thanks Jack! Been very much looking forward to it!

So is this the discussion thread for the trade then?


Also, might want to consider making this part big, bold, italicized and red as I'm amazed how often people mistake asking price for market value. laugh

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Use the BGG Marketplace history - sold items, not the prices for unsold items.
When there's a lack of marketplace history using the previously sold filter on eBay is another great marker of actual market value.

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NuMystic wrote:
Thanks Jack! Been very much looking forward to it!

So is this the discussion thread for the trade then?
Why yes. Yes it is...
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Well this should be interesting. I like the time table for this as well. Someone just posted a RPG math trade that doesn't end until the middle of July. Almost 4 weeks total in length. This one however hits the sweet spot.
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I don't see it in the OLWLG. Has it not been added yet, or am I missing it?
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would something like Zombicide + Zombicide Box of Zombies Set #1: Walk of the Dead be enough? I think its borderline, but some of the things like Mage Knight I think are also.
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Bruiser419 wrote:
I don't see it in the OLWLG. Has it not been added yet, or am I missing it?
Patience. I sent the request in last night.

 
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lj1983 wrote:
would something like Zombicide + Zombicide Box of Zombies Set #1: Walk of the Dead be enough? I think its borderline, but some of the things like Mage Knight I think are also.
Mage Knight isn't even that close.

Your package would just qualify if the condition is new or like new.
 
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Similarly, would Star Trek Catan plus the Federation and Borg starters for the Star Trek Collectible Dice Game get there?

I've had a few trade requests for Star Trek Catan recently which leads me to believe it's worth closer to the marketplace asking price of $50-60ish, but I could very well be wrong so I wanted to double check on here before I put it in the geeklist.
 
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gophers79 wrote:
Similarly, would Star Trek Catan plus the Federation and Borg starters for the Star Trek Collectible Dice Game get there?

I've had a few trade requests for Star Trek Catan recently which leads me to believe it's worth closer to the marketplace asking price of $50-60ish, but I could very well be wrong so I wanted to double check on here before I put it in the geeklist.
I would say not quite. I found Catan online for about $37 and many other Amazon sellers have it under $40.
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So, this isn't necessarily for rare, OOP, expensive games. Correct?

If I would to bundle 2 or 3 churn-and-burn games, that's ok too?

I'm trying to decide whether to put some games I probably wouldn't get rid of but might if I saw something great versus just putting together a couple of "games from 2013", "games from 2012" bundles.
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Thanks for running this Jack! While I doubt I have anything in my collection that would qualify (I'll double check here in a few minutes), I'm excited just to follow this trade to see what cool stuff comes up.
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ecspiegel wrote:
Thanks for running this Jack! While I doubt I have anything in my collection that would qualify (I'll double check here in a few minutes), I'm excited just to follow this trade to see what cool stuff comes up.
I know the feeling. I had a few, but just traded them all this past month except for Master Thieves. Not sure what else I have to list that I'd be willing to part with.
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So, this isn't necessarily for rare, OOP, expensive games. Correct?

If I would to bundle 2 or 3 churn-and-burn games, that's ok too?
Yes, but realistically you're highly unlikely to trade anything like that, unless you go for other similar entries by other people. If you're not willing to do that then you're really just wasting your time (your choice).
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I do so love this math trade. I've got a handful of items I'll be throwing up in the next few days all set for it.
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I have the kickstarter Freedom: The Underground Railroad with all the kickstarter goodies that I pledged for $60. Would this qualify?
 
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BlueDane wrote:
I have the kickstarter Freedom: The Underground Railroad with all the kickstarter goodies that I pledged for $60. Would this qualify?
Kickstarter? Yes - just.
 
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If I make a comment on one of your entries thinking that it doesn't qualify, and you think it does, please feel free to make your case. I'm happy to admit that I was mistaken. But if I don't agree with your case, please don't argue with me... shake

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Qualifier check: How about GD'41 by the Gamers? Like new, unpunched, slight dishing to bottom of box (three corners have 1" creases)

Oh yeah, plus Gamers XMas counters (unpunched) from 92, 94 and 95.

Last 2 sales on spielboy look like $80 and $70; but price history for like new average is $53.
 
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With the extra counters, I'll let this one qualify. Thanks for checking Ron.
 
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With the extra counters, I'll let this one qualify. Thanks for checking Ron.
You're welcome. Easier to check here 1st than to take it off the list.

Thanks for the time and effort you're putting into this.
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