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Poczet Herbut
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Hey all,

I'm looking for a new game that will fill a missing place in my collection. It should be a game with high interaction, conflict - more tactical than strategic, not a wargame or LCG format. I guess I'm looking for a hybrid between ameri and euro. Something with clever and surprising design filled with tense back and forth gameplay. Maybe it will be easier to show what kind of game I want by listing my current types and worries that stop me from buying them for now:

1. Theseus: The Dark Orbit - would be perfect but too many people claim that it doesn't work well for 3 people (which is my main playing group count)

2. Wiz-war - might not have enough game inside, besides i own too many pure ameritrash games already.

3. Quarriors - a lot of people say strategic choices are nonexistant

4. Quantum - haven't found big cons so far

5. Blood Bowl: Team Manager – The Card Game - I don't know, my heart just doesn't tick for this game

That's my short list for now, I'll be happy to hear what good people of BGG have to offer. :]
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When you say tactical conflict I think more on the lines of:

Eclipse
Runewars
Game of Thrones
Twilight Imperium
Descent

Or how about:

Rex
Terra Mystica
Kemet
Clash of Cultures
Dominent Species?
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You should give Quantum another look. I picked it up on a whim late last year and I've been enjoying it ever since. It's very luck-based, but I think it has everything you're looking for. Quick, intense conflict coupled with innovative and sleek ways of using dice for multiple ways of tracking stats makes this one a winner for me.

Blood Bowl: Team Manager is okay, but I think it shines best at 2 and 3 players. 4 players becomes a little too chaotic.

If I had to recommend something else, Small World is certainly worth a try.
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Yeah, Small World fits your requirements quite well, although I don't like this game much personally, I cannot really say why, it's just a good game that I don't feel like playing too often.

How about Cyclades?
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I know you said not a wargame, but Conflict of Heroes seems to otherwise be spot on
 
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Kemet and Nexus Ops.
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Lowecore wrote:
When you say tactical conflict I think more on the lines of:

Eclipse
Runewars
Game of Thrones
Twilight Imperium
Descent

Or how about:

Rex
Terra Mystica
Kemet
Clash of Cultures
Dominent Species?


Yeah, those are all great choices, but for now I'm looking for a game on a smaller scale :]
 
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You should give Quantum another look. I picked it up on a whim late last year and I've been enjoying it ever since. It's very luck-based, but I think it has everything you're looking for. Quick, intense conflict coupled with innovative and sleek ways of using dice for multiple ways of tracking stats makes this one a winner for me.

Blood Bowl: Team Manager is okay, but I think it shines best at 2 and 3 players. 4 players becomes a little too chaotic.

If I had to recommend something else, Small World is certainly worth a try.


Quantum is slowly coming on top of my list. It seems like a great game so far.

Haven't considered Small world yet, I never played it and always considered it rather a lifght family game, but maybe i need to take a closer look, thanks!
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Let me also recommend Quantum. It's a great game, very elegant and filled with interaction.

I only have two problems with it:

-The 2 player game isn't great.
-It only supports up to 4 people.
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You don't want Quarriors!, based on the criteria you gave.

I'll give a +1 to Nexus Ops, even though it only plays up to 4.

Empires of the Void might work, but it also only plays to 4.

Both of those games play well at 3 players, which is your most common player count.
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Punnuf wrote:
newkillerstar27 wrote:
You should give Quantum another look. I picked it up on a whim late last year and I've been enjoying it ever since. It's very luck-based, but I think it has everything you're looking for. Quick, intense conflict coupled with innovative and sleek ways of using dice for multiple ways of tracking stats makes this one a winner for me.

Blood Bowl: Team Manager is okay, but I think it shines best at 2 and 3 players. 4 players becomes a little too chaotic.

If I had to recommend something else, Small World is certainly worth a try.


Quantum is slowly coming on top of my list. It seems like a great game so far.

Haven't considered Small world yet, I never played it and always considered it rather a lifght family game, but maybe i need to take a closer look, thanks!


It's fairly light, but not gateway game light. You can also check into Small World Underground if you want a slightly heavier experience. Good luck!
 
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Lobotnik wrote:
Kemet and Nexus Ops.


And Cyclades.
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newkillerstar27 wrote:
If I had to recommend something else, Small World is certainly worth a try.

He said not a wargame. whistle
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+1 Kemet, Small World is definitely a light conflict game, with a very strong area control element.
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Take a look at the following games:
Infamy - Harsh bidding and worker placement that can lock out your opponents. Player count 3-4.

Cuba Libre - I know you said no wargames, but I'm not a major wargame player, and this game (along with any COIN games) rocks. Small tight player board, back and forth balancing, making side deals is a major part of the game, along with some major backstabbing. It's been equated to a knife fight in a phone booth. Andean Abyss is also great, but longer playing time and a little harder to introduce to groups.

Duel of Ages II is majorly tactical, plays 2-8 players. The game is one of the most unique and gratifying games I've played - strong theme of characters, major tactical decisions - definitely does not have euro elements.

Ginkgopolis is largely tactical as you need to adapt to a changing board, plays 1-5 players - and one of my all time favorites

Finally, City of Remnants can have some nice tense gameplay, has area control, and deckbuilding elements.

Hope that gives you some games that haven't been recommended yet.
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If your group was most often 4 players, rather than 3, I'd say you should pick up Chaos in the Old World. It's not as good with 3, but it's one of my favorite 4-player designs ever. And I think we have similar tastes, if you like tense, smart, hybrid-style designs with lots of player interaction and tactical challenges.

You know what? You should get it, and then also get one more regular gaming friend. That seems like the best idea from my perspective. I'm actually visiting Poland in a month, maybe I'll just volunteer for the position.
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Quantum is where its at!

 
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eastwoodk wrote:
Take a look at the following games:
Infamy - Harsh bidding and worker placement that can lock out your opponents. Player count 3-4.

Cuba Libre - I know you said no wargames, but I'm not a major wargame player, and this game (along with any COIN games) rocks. Small tight player board, back and forth balancing, making side deals is a major part of the game, along with some major backstabbing. It's been equated to a knife fight in a phone booth. Andean Abyss is also great, but longer playing time and a little harder to introduce to groups.

Duel of Ages II is majorly tactical, plays 2-8 players. The game is one of the most unique and gratifying games I've played - strong theme of characters, major tactical decisions - definitely does not have euro elements.

Ginkgopolis is largely tactical as you need to adapt to a changing board, plays 1-5 players - and one of my all time favorites

Finally, City of Remnants can have some nice tense gameplay, has area control, and deckbuilding elements.

Hope that gives you some games that haven't been recommended yet.


Oh, thanks a lot! You gave me a lot to think about. Duel of ages is on my list for a long time now. So was Tournay which is from what i know from the same designer as Ginkgopolis, so maybe i should take a look at it.
 
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If your group was most often 4 players, rather than 3, I'd say you should pick up Chaos in the Old World. It's not as good with 3, but it's one of my favorite 4-player designs ever. And I think we have similar tastes, if you like tense, smart, hybrid-style designs with lots of player interaction and tactical challenges.

You know what? You should get it, and then also get one more regular gaming friend. That seems like the best idea from my perspective. I'm actually visiting Poland in a month, maybe I'll just volunteer for the position.


I would get Chaos ages ago if not that 4 player requirement. On the other hand a lot of people say that Theseus is bad with more than 2, but from time to time someone comes on BGG and says he had a blast with 3. If i listened too much to what people say I wouldn't get Battlestar Galactica because it is not recommended for 3 players and yet we have tons of fun with it (same was with King of tokyo or Robo Rally for only 2).
My big question is: is it worse with 3 players than with 4 or not fun at all for 3 players. If the first is correct i guess i would buy it.
 
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Man, get Blood Bowl: Team Manager – The Card Game, really. You'll thank me later. It's just perfect with 2,3,4. Whatever.
Oh, and also Warhammer: Diskwars would be a great one. 3-way games were the most fun we had with this game so far. I love "lighter" games (both in shelf space and in price) who can deliver absurdly high fun and replayability. And those will fit the spot perfectly.

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Addendum: if you was to but an heavier game and you can afford the price tag, getting a second Warhammer: Diskwars base game or Blood Bowl: Team Manager – The Card Game – Sudden Death would still fit your price and enhance your games even more.
 
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I've only played a few games of CitOW with three players, but I had a good time. That might not be enough evidence for you but I think it's still very playable with three people.
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Hey, That's My Fish!

Only goes up to four players (2 to 4).

It might look cute, but this turns into a vicious tactical game pretty quickly when cutthroat-minded adults start playing.

Might not be a direct-enough type of conflict for your niche, but aggressive is definitely part of the experience.
 
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Interociter wrote:
Lobotnik wrote:
Kemet and Nexus Ops.


And Cyclades.
The three I came here to post. These match your request perfectly (only Cyclades plays to five Nexus Ops only plays to four, though).

Chaos in the Old world (plays to five with the expansion) is heavier and less a fighting game - but is just incredible. The heaviness comes from the gameplay, not the length, though. It is not as good with three players as four - but still better than many other games at that player count.

Edit: Lobotnik reminded me that Kemet also plays to five. Good catch - my mistake!
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