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I've done little reading on WW1, and therefore have the usual prejudice about WW1 wargames: how much fun can a game be about a conflict that was so static compared to WW2 wargames?

So please educate me a bit on WW1 and WW1 wargames!

Thanks, in advance, H.
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http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/349281/world-war-one-gam...
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I would recommend this one for starters

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/21414/last-man

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Not a big WWI wargamer myself. The only WWI game I've played that I really enjoyed was Breakthrough: Cambrai...well that and Axis & Allies: WWI 1914 which while fun isn't exactly a hard core historical simulation.
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Re: Recommendations for a WW1 wargames
Two WW1 games which stood out for me were the old Command Magazine game Storm in the West (as best as I can recall that was the name). It covered the German attack in March 1918 - operation Michael.

For the tactical level, I greatly enjoy Landships. Like a poster above I can also recommend Breakthrough Cambrai. All three title convey the difficulties of launching attacks in that war. Land ships graphically shows very well how early success could very easily result in eventual stalemate.
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Some videos to check out:

http://boardgamegeek.com/video/3824/world-war-i/ww1-historic...

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12282/grand-illusion-1914...
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There is no WWI game that I like more than La Grande Guerre 14-18.

It's not a perfect game by any means, but the way it covers national
will, and the driving factors of the war is just beautiful.
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I quite enjoyed these as introductions to the topic..

Clash of Giants

Clash of Giants II
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Heres a few really good ones.

Der Weltkrieg Series
Death in the Trenches: The Great War, 1914-1918
Marne 1918: Friedensturm
Somme 1918
1914: Twilight in the East
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La Grande Guerre 14-18 How could I forget? blush
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I like Fields of Despair: France 1914-1918
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kiraly wrote:
I'll second Bill's Der Weltkrieg Series recommendation. Very solid rulebook and the game that really pushed home to me that WWI was more than just trench warfare.


You guys need to check this out!
http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14@@.1ddac1b4
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To play any of the campaigns, the Weltkrieg series is tops in terms of both coverage, elegance and history - no other system gets the balance that well.

If you are willing to stomach complexity, I recommend The Cossacks Are Coming! (2nd Edition), which has phenomenal feel and a command system that ranks among the best in the hobby when it comes to pre-WW2 campaigns. (And if you are insane, you can go on to Home Before the Leaves Fall: The Marne Campaign 1914, which is pretty much the ultimate WWI operational experience.)

Strategically, the games that stand out are, funny enough, at the top and bottom end of the spectrum in terms of complexity and size: La Grande Guerre at the top end, at the other end, World War I (still one of the best, after almost 40 years) and Death in the Trenches.

Tactically, there's not a lot. I do like Landships for its degree of coverage and the map graphics, but be aware that the system is a bit of a junkyard of mechanisms, the scenarios can be unbalanced and in any case it should not be played without the variant CRT posted on Web-Grognards. (That CRT was officially included in the expansion, Infernal Machines.)

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Hey Hunga!

Breakthrough: Cambrai is really good. It is Area-Impulse and uses a simplified system of Breakout: Normandy and Monty's Gamble: Market Garden if you know those WWII games.

Guns of August / Guns of Galicia (Note: NOT the old Avalon Hill game) cover the first 3 months of the war or the eastern and western front, before the trenches took hold in the west.

Red Poppies: WWI Tactics is a nice tactical game if that is more your scale.

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Here's an old one that didn't get much love when it was published,
but I still enjoy the design:

The Kaiser's Battle

The SCS system was also retrofitted for Rock of the Marne which
played out well. Both of these guys are very late war though, so
they have a lot more maneuver than you'll see in the middling years.


Some good air and naval stuff too, but I'm guessing you're not interested
in that.
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Some old SPI games:

Soldiers (tactical, early war)
The Marne: Home Before the Leaves Fall
To the Green Fields Beyond (Cambrai)
World War I (folio-sized, covers entire European war)
Flying Circus
Dreadnought (includes WWI scenarios)
The Great War in the East (4 east front battles)
The Kaiser's Battle (1918 German offensive)
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Grand Illusion: Mirage of Glory, 1914 has not been mentioned yet but I really like it also Breakthrough: Cambrai

I have Clash of Giants (I & II) and Paths of Glory unplayed, but would love to try.
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Ace of Aces: Handy Rotary Series has just been reprinted last year.

One of the classic milestones of wargame design.

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The First World War has the merit of making you able to play the entire war from beginning to end in one short evening.

The "sudden death" rules are detestable, IMO, as written, but variants have been suggested which improve the game a lot.
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Mallet wrote:
Ace of Aces: Handy Rotary Series has just been reprinted last year.

One of the classic milestones of wargame design.

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Still the best WWI game I know as well. Not many war-games you can play in line at the movie theater!

I also enjoy The Great War in Europe: Deluxe Edition. It is the best of the ground games I have played (though I have not played them all).

Storm of Steel looks pretty interesting (I enjoy TK).
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Monster gamers DE, DW, PB praise 1914: Twilight in the East and are currently in the counter punch & clip out phase of 1914: Offensive à outrance
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The map could use a make-over, but I like the concept especially as a miniatures battle generator.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/11694/great-war-sea-cruis...

As for Schroeder's Der Weltkreig the one thing is series cries out for is a detailed list of sources. I don't recall much if any of it in any of the rulebooks - the designer notes, such as they are, I think could have been a lot more detailed or at least complimentary from one title to the next (basically they seemed mostly identical).

Anyway I guess that just means that I am interested in the design process when it comes to putting together a finished product.
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IMHO, this is a little gem of a game and it shouldn't be hard to find.

World War I
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Peso Pete wrote:
I will recommend one that is off the beaten path a bit: Distant Foreign Fields: The Great War 1914-1918. The way it incorporates supply in when to do offensives is quite interesting. Basically, you build up supply points which allows you to launch offensives which really gives the feel of massive armies lurching forward and then stopping to replenish their supply pools. It's a bit like La Grande Guerre 14-18, but much simpler to play.



What soft factors does it cover? LGG's biggest + for me is the whole
national will system that it uses, and I might be very interested in something
that abstracted the actual combat further but kept that tremendous
focus on the politics.
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If you are/were a fan of Star Fleet Battles, check out Battlewagon by the same company. It uses a similar system and feels like fighting a battle between sub-light (armor-based) space ships, except these are WWI/WWII era ships. But your affinity to this game is directly proportional to that of SFB.
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