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Apparently, Marvel announced on "The View" that Thor will now be a woman. Not sure how I feel about this. Picture below. Discuss.

Variety:Thor As Woman
Wired:New Female Thor

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Hmmm.... while I'm not opposed to strong female characters in general, and superheroes in particular - this choice seems odd, as if I understand correctly, it'd require retconning Norse mythology...
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jeffreyac wrote:
Hmmm.... while I'm not opposed to strong female characters in general, and superheroes in particular - this choice seems odd, as if I understand correctly, it'd require retconning Norse mythology...


That is my concern, especially with so many strong female characters in Norse mythology. Odd. Though Loki has been a woman a few times (among other things).
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jeffreyac wrote:
Hmmm.... while I'm not opposed to strong female characters in general, and superheroes in particular - this choice seems odd, as if I understand correctly, it'd require retconning Norse mythology...


That is my concern, especially with so many strong female characters in Norse mythology. Odd. Though Loki has been a woman a few times (among other things).


There is no retcon. In the Marvel Comics Thor has caused himself no longer to be worthy to wield Mjolnir. So, he no longer has it. All of his history exists, and all the Norse mythology based around him is still true, just in the current day, he made a mistake. A female has picked up the hammer, and she now "wields the power of Thor" - as is inscribed on the hammer. The son of Odin is still an active character in the comics, he just has an axe now. (This isn't the first time that someone else has wielded the hammer in the comics, and is how we got Beta Ray Bill, it is just the first time they are making that character be "Thor" and be female and be in the main continuity.)
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The motivation behind the idea was briefly on Stan Lee's FB page and imho, this change (if this info was accurate) is lame.

I'm all for GURL power but this just seems idiotically forced.

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The motivation behind the idea was briefly on Stan Lee's FB page and imho, this change (if this info was accurate) is lame.

I'm all for GURL power but this just seems idiotically forced.



Nah, it's to sell 18 comics. Thor will be "Thor" again by the release of Avengers 2. Just like the new Captain America will not be Captain America in a year/year-and-a-half, too.
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jeffreyac wrote:
Hmmm.... while I'm not opposed to strong female characters in general, and superheroes in particular - this choice seems odd, as if I understand correctly, it'd require retconning Norse mythology...


As opposed to the usual authenticism? Please!

The picture sucks, but I like the idea.
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Hey, those norse gods were into kinky stuff.
wikipedia wrote:
By the stallion Svaðilfari, Loki is the mother — giving birth in the form of a mare — to the eight-legged horse Sleipnir.
Live and let live, brother...
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I understand how they're selling the switch. That this isn't actually the same Thor but some woman who picks up the hammer after Thor falls from grace. It's just part of a long story line. I suspect Thor will regain his hammer down the road at some point.

The news story headlines are purposely being a bit deceptive though to get people to read the story. The truth is the comic book folks do this kind of this from time to time to stir the pot a bit and get publicity. Remember Superman dying? He's back alive by the way.
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Obviously this means that in Avengers 3 Thor will be played by Sarah Michelle Gellar.
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Some of my friends want to fight against this, but I have a feeling they'll just end up Thor losers.
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Just another case of a comic book company being bored and not willing to invest in another character so they create one using something well known. Look at Spiderman these past few years. Marvel got tired of killing off Jean Grey so they now have brought in her daughter instead to essentially play the same role.
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Just another case of a comic book company being bored and not willing to invest in another character so they create one using something well known.


Marvel (and all) are forever trying to create new characters, just no-one ever buys them.

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Marvel got tired of killing off Jean Grey so they now have brought in her daughter instead to essentially play the same role.


Racheal Summers is pretty cool, but she's been around since before I was born.
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In what can only be considered a major alignment of celestial bodies, I just this week dropped the remaining comics from my pull list. For the first time in nearly 20 years I am not getting any regular comics.

I should replace this money, time, and space consuming habit with something else.

Hrm.

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mylittlepwny wrote:
Some of my friends want to fight against this, but I have a feeling they'll just end up Thor losers.


Funny, my friends are blasé about it, but they are pretty Loki about most things.
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I'm amused by the number of posts essentially saying that this is too weird. Has everyone already forgotten Beta Ray Bill?
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I'm amused by the number of posts essentially saying that this is too weird. Has everyone already forgotten Beta Ray Bill comics are supposed to be weird?


Fixed it for myself. I agree with the sentiment. Somehow, comics have almost become a sacred myth instead of fun stories.

I'm ambivalent. And anyone that thinks this isn't going to go back to Son of Odin as Thor... well, he will...

Peter Parker died and was gone, gone for good last year... but now he's back. Superman died and that didn't last long. Bruce Wayne has died, not been Batman, is back, is Batman, isn't Batman... whatever.

They are just corporate characters, drumming up sales. Not inviolate myths.
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Racheal Summers is pretty cool, but she's been around since before I was born.


(shakes cane)

Get off my lawn!



It still feels like she was meant to fill in for Jean. Also, X-23. Now that's she been integrated as a hero they can kill off Wolverine for a time.
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We're in the Aluminum Age of comics. Everything is recycled and recyclable.

Bucky, Jason Todd, Uncle Ben, Aunt May, secret identities, Brand New Day, "New Cap", "New Thor", "New Batman", ad nauseum.

It would not suprise me at all if they somehow brought Bruce Wayne's parents back to life
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shumyum wrote:
mylittlepwny wrote:
Some of my friends want to fight against this, but I have a feeling they'll just end up Thor losers.


Funny, my friends are blasé about it, but they are pretty Loki about most things.

Asgard is my witness, this really Freys my balls.
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shumyum wrote:
mylittlepwny wrote:
Some of my friends want to fight against this, but I have a feeling they'll just end up Thor losers.


Funny, my friends are blasé about it, but they are pretty Loki about most things.

Asgard is my witness, this really Freys my balls.


Sorry, I agree it was Friggan terrible.
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I believe it was Neil Diamond who sang "Thor, you'll be a woman soon".

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and nick Fury will be black. We'll get used to it, or it'll be gone.
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Phil of Mars wrote:
and nick Fury will be black. We'll get used to it, or it'll be gone.


Oh gosh. Remember that hubbub? Or how about Colossus being gay in Ultimate (at least, I think that was Ultimate)?

Or remember when Batman carried a gun? You don't, you say? Well, he's sure changed from some early comics.
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