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Niccolo Machiavelli
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Welcome to the Moscow comrades!






Players starting in Moscow Round 5:
namyzarc
interessovat
SailingChris
Mmazala
ranapuer
MaytheOdds
nolemonplease
Borgoto
FATNOOB

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Ranapuer



“The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand.” - Paraphrased from the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell

The duly appointed and rightful governor of Moscow has appointed comrade Namyzarc as special ambassador to Leningrad. During the round the player may bold that they are using their Ambassador status to leave the room and travel to the other room for one hour. That player cannot vote or reveal any information on their cards. The ambassador can send whispers, receive whispers, and receive private reveals.

The leader of this room must choose ONE PERSON to transfer from MOSCOW to LENINGRAD. Leader, bold that you've chosen hostages to the room thread, and PM me your choices. In addition you must send me your executive decision (choose one) and any conditionals, including preference of transfers, in the case that your chosen transfers are not viable.

Your deadline to do this is Saturday, 10:00 BGG time (CST).

Executive Decisions for Round Five:

There is no need for Executive decisions at this point save one; Who will you side with?

If you have a rules or role question, geekmail me.

Please remember: All players assigned into a room MUST NOT CHEAT and look at the other room's thread. They may only read and post in their assigned room and chambers.

Locked Votes: Due to the nature of Lobbyist and other roles in this game, Locked Votes may not be unlocked during the round, unless a power forces them to re-lock a vote.

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YOU MAY POST COMRADES!

The duly appointed and rightful governor of Moscow has appointed comrade Namyzarc as special ambassador to Leningrad. During the round the player may bold that they are using their Ambassador status to leave the room and travel to the other room for one hour. That player cannot vote or reveal any information on their cards. The ambassador can send whispers, receive whispers, and receive private reveals.
 
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I know it says not to post yet, but int the official topic it says Round 5 has begun, you may post, and I'm risking being late for work if I wait any longer so here it goes. EDIT: Ok, as I was typing this, you editied to say it was ok, so we're good.

I public reveal

I am the RED lobbyist!

I will use my power to force all players with the lobbied condiiton to lock-vote for me as leader.

Lobbied players in this room:

-Maytheodds
-nolemonplease
-namyzarc
-Fatnoob
-Borgoto

I will be at work for the next 8-9 hours. I'll catch up on all the messages tonight.
 
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oh and vote ranapuer

later all
 
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Well comrades I am back and do not bring good tidings. Natsume has the other room on lockdown, the are almost all blues, and there is some sort of deal going on with her and Peer, who is the Born Leader.

The game is a coin flip.

There is a small chance that a deal may be struck that will allow Caitlin, Rana, and I (all ANOINTED) in on the coin flip. I'm pretty sure Natsume will also choose a special ambassador. Let's show her that we can play very nicely with the Greys:

1. We need one more usurpation for Emme

2. An anointed one has to be in power. I am happy to be voted in, then usurped out of the office for Rana if everyone here wants

3. After these have happened - we should let Borgoto gobble up all the cards.


Also, any hostages talk should be kept to whispers because of the Ambassadors.

Thoughts, comrades?

Vote FATNOOB
 
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Lock vote Rana
 
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Oh. We can't do anything until Rana unlocks us.
 
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VOTES: Using longest last held vote method.

Current Leader: Rana Puer (ranapuer)

Ranapuer: Ranapuer (1), MaytheOdds (2)*
FATNOOB: FATNOOB (3)

If you are lobbied you must Lock-Vote for Ranapuer

*: signifies locked vote.


 
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Would anyone care to fill me in on what happened here last time around?
 
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Vote Brian
 
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Lock Vote Ranapuer

 
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Caitlin - I screwed up at the beginning and should have sent you over with Craig and Rana to try to get a Grey in power over there. My bad.
 
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Oh shoot. I already forgot the post I read.

Lock vote Rana
Unlock vote Rana
Vote Brian


I can do that, no? I'll keep the lobby condition, but help with usurping.
 
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VOTES: Using longest last held vote method.

Current Leader: Rana Puer (ranapuer)

Ranapuer: Ranapuer (1), MaytheOdds (2)*, FATNOOB (5)*
FATNOOB: FATNOOB (3), nolemonplease (4)

If you are lobbied you must Lock-Vote for Ranapuer

*: signifies locked vote.

 
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nolemonplease wrote:
Oh shoot. I already forgot the post I read.

Lock vote Rana
Unlock vote Rana
Vote Brian


I can do that, no? I'll keep the lobby condition, but help with usurping.


Machiavellian wrote:


Locked Votes: Due to the nature of Lobbyist and other roles in this game, Locked Votes may not be unlocked during the round, unless a power forces them to re-lock a vote.


No you cannot. If you are lobbied, you must Lock vote on ranapuer and it must remain there, unless you are re-lobbied or he hands off leadership. (If you are "Stoned" you cannot vote).
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I don't think so.

Machiavellian wrote:
Locked Votes: Due to the nature of Lobbyist and other roles in this game, Locked Votes may not be unlocked during the round, unless a power forces them to re-lock a vote.


Unless I'm misunderstanding?
 
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Machiavellian wrote:
No you cannot. If you are lobbied, you must Lock vote on ranapuer and it must remain there, unless you are re-lobbied or he hands off leadership. (If you are "Stoned" you cannot vote).



Ranapuer looks like he is our leader for the rest of the way then. He can't hand off leadership.


Emme - did you get your three usurpations in?
 
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I don't understand the definition then.

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When the Lobbyist public reveals, he can use his LOBBYING power to force all players who have the "lobbied" condition from him to lock-vote for him as leader that round. By keeping their vote there, they lose the "lobbied" condition (they only lose it when you use your power). If someone with the "lobbied" condition is leader, they will offer leadership to you.


It tells me I have to lock vote. And if I remain lock voted, I will lose the condition. Why can't I unlock and then keep the condition?

Vote Rana
 
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interessovat wrote:
I don't think so.

Machiavellian wrote:
Locked Votes: Due to the nature of Lobbyist and other roles in this game, Locked Votes may not be unlocked during the round, unless a power forces them to re-lock a vote.


Unless I'm misunderstanding?

Oh.

Lock vote Rana

Sorry Emme.
 
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nolemonplease wrote:
I don't understand the definition then.

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When the Lobbyist public reveals, he can use his LOBBYING power to force all players who have the "lobbied" condition from him to lock-vote for him as leader that round. By keeping their vote there, they lose the "lobbied" condition (they only lose it when you use your power). If someone with the "lobbied" condition is leader, they will offer leadership to you.


It tells me I have to lock vote. And if I remain lock voted, I will lose the condition. Why can't I unlock and then keep the condition?

Vote Rana


The rules at the beginning of every round have a notation on locked votes. That is what I quoted before. Were those rules not there, I agree, you could remove your locked vote, and keep the condition.
 
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Machiavellian wrote:
nolemonplease wrote:
I don't understand the definition then.

Quote:
When the Lobbyist public reveals, he can use his LOBBYING power to force all players who have the "lobbied" condition from him to lock-vote for him as leader that round. By keeping their vote there, they lose the "lobbied" condition (they only lose it when you use your power). If someone with the "lobbied" condition is leader, they will offer leadership to you.


It tells me I have to lock vote. And if I remain lock voted, I will lose the condition. Why can't I unlock and then keep the condition?

Vote Rana


The rules at the beginning of every round have a notation on locked votes. That is what I quoted before. Were those rules not there, I agree, you could remove your locked vote, and keep the condition.

Yeah yeah. Who reads? =P
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Anything interesting happen here last round?
 
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VOTES: Using longest last held vote method.

Current Leader: Rana Puer (ranapuer)

Ranapuer: Ranapuer (1), MaytheOdds (2)*, FATNOOB (5)*, Nolemonplease (6)*
FATNOOB: FATNOOB (3), nolemonplease (4)

If you are lobbied you must Lock-Vote for Ranapuer

*: signifies locked vote.

 
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namyzarc cannot vote!

Caity, grrrrr, which Chameleon are you?

I had a meeting unfortunately at 11:00 and the room thread wasn't ready then.
 
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Since the rat does not have a specification and that is partially what ambassador is based off of (though Ambassador is weaker & more restricted) the special Ambassador may read the whole of the thread for this round. Thematically, they are being briefed on the most recent events.
 
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