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This is a must watch.

Why Boardgames Are Beautiful
http://www.shutupandsitdown.com/blog/post/your-favourite-gam...

http://kotaku.com/why-board-games-are-beautiful-1607355035?u...
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Excellent reminder of what sets boardgaming apart from many other hobbies, the human interaction it provides and the memories formed from those interactions.
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Yeah that was pretty special. meeple

Shutupandsitdown is pretty brilliant too.

Link to Original Site with comments space.

For others What is your favourite memory of playing a game with others?

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1. Pandemic with a brand new flatmate on her first night with us, when she knew nothing about us or gaming but who insisted that we played Pandemic twice more after our initial shared loss.
2. Taking Dixit on a 'training weekend' and having a bunch of complete strangers stay up way too late to share the laughs and fun with one another.
3. Taking Hanabi home and having my anti-gaming father spend the rest of the evening pontificating on the best strategy required to 'win' the game. We were/are already winners.
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A wonderful and moving post.

Some Maori:

He aha te mea nui o te ao?
He tangata! He tangata! He tangata!

What is the most important thing in the world?
It is people! It is people! It is people!

The Reiner Knizia neo-Koen, has never sat well with me as it misses the point:
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning'

The goal is to be there with the people and the game.

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Beautiful, true, and touching. Thank you for sharing.
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I love this because it puts all our discussions (sometimes arguments) over what makes a great game into context. In light of this video, I can see merit in games I dislike just on the grounds that it brings joy to someone somewhere and makes friends come together and strangers become friends.
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A wonderful and moving post.

Some Maori:

He aha te mea nui o te ao?
He tangata! He tangata! He tangata!

What is the most important thing in the world?
It is people! It is people! It is people!

The Reiner Knizia neo-Koen, has never sat well with me as it misses the point:
'When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning'

The goal is to be there with the people and the game.



It doesn't miss the point, it just makes a different point. They're not contradictory at all, they're very very complimentary.
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The goal is to be there with the people and the game.


Not my goal, not my interest. I don't collect memories, and in the terms of the video, I don't have memories that I treasure or hold precious. Memories are present to be sure, but they're just context. Time, it passes, and we confront the world before us.

This is not to say that games are some sort of ultimate value, but I play games in order to play games, not to socialise or make friends or to have a good time. I play games in order to play games (and thereby learn from them): the goal is the direct product of the activity.

As happens, my father also died recently. While there are many coulda-shoulda-wouldas rife in my head, especially those about conversations I would have liked to have had with him -- isn't it always the things said and unsaid? -- those things would never have happened when he was alive, and could not have happened when he was alive. That was not who he was or how he lived. And conversations with him him now that he is dead are rather unproductive. Which is as it should be.
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Gaming for me isn't about people, it's about the game.

Yes I have many great memories of playing games with other people, but also playing great games solo.


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Gaming for me isn't about people, it's about the game.



I don't agree. It matters very much with whom you play your games. I had games that I hated when playing with a specific group and when I played them with the right crowd they were a blast.
Also, while solo gaming is sometimes fun it can't hold the candle to playing with some nice folks.

That being said, I don't know what's so brilliant about the video? It's sad that his dad died, but how does that make it the best boardgaming video ever if it has to contend with videos like




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Was that why you were not posting much on BGG lately?


Nope. I've been working (startup).

I took a break yesterday and worked through a few hundred pages of subscriptions. We'll see if I'll have time to continue after this weekend.
 
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It matters very much with whom you play your games.


Priorities. I will eagerly play a game I'm interested in with people I dislike over a game I dislike with people I adore.
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It matters very much with whom you play your games.


Priorities. I will eagerly play a game I'm interested in with people I dislike over a game I dislike with people I adore.


You're right... playing a game that truly sucks isn't fun no matter who you play with. But tell, do you enjoy games that don't suck better with people who you like or does it make absolutely no difference?
 
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But tell, do you enjoy games that don't suck better with people who you like or does it make absolutely no difference?


It makes a difference, but it is a difference that isn't important to me. I don't recall ever picking people over game.
 
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It matters very much with whom you play your games.


Priorities. I will eagerly play a game I'm interested in with people I dislike over a game I dislike with people I adore.


What if you dislike them because they quit halfway through and ruin the game?

There are people you like, and people you like to game with. They're not always the same thing and they don't have to be, but ignoring the context of who you are playing with it absurd.

I like to game with anyone who wants to play the game I want to play. But they have to play it fairly, seriously, and with a base level of manners (regarding the game, themselves, and other people).
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Gaming for me isn't about people, it's about the game.

Yes I have many great memories of playing games with other people, but also playing great games solo.



I feel like this more times than not, I guess.
Socializing and being around people are the prices I have to pay to play some games.
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There are people you like, and people you like to game with. They're not always the same thing and they don't have to be, but ignoring the context of who you are playing with it absurd.


Hehn. I only play with people who (attempt to) play competitively. Whether or not I like them or like their company or think much about them at all in that or any other regard is beside the point. Sure, it is more pleasant if I like them or whatever, but that's a bonus, not a requirement.
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lamaros wrote:
There are people you like, and people you like to game with. They're not always the same thing and they don't have to be, but ignoring the context of who you are playing with it absurd.


Hehn. I only play with people who (attempt to) play competitively. Whether or not I like them or like their company or think much about them at all in that or any other regard is beside the point. Sure, it is more pleasant if I like them or whatever, but that's a bonus, not a requirement.


You're already being selective in who you will play with when you say "I only play with people who (attempt to) play competitively". Like it or not, you're already making a selection; about who you like to play with, because they play the game the way you like to play.

That doesn't mean you have to like their attitude to politics, or their fashion sense, but it does mean you shouldn't go around saying you don't make a judgement on who you play games with, and that the game is all that matters to you.
 
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lamaros wrote:
You're already being selective in who you will play with when you say "I only play with people who (attempt to) play competitively". Like it or not, you're already making a selection; about who you like to play with, because they play the game the way you like to play.


Absolutely, and I've not suggested otherwise.

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That doesn't mean you have to like their attitude to politics, or their fashion sense, but it does mean you shouldn't go around saying you don't make a judgement on who you play games with, and that the game is all that matters to you.


Well, it is a good thing that I never said that then, isn't it?
 
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lamaros wrote:
You're already being selective in who you will play with when you say "I only play with people who (attempt to) play competitively". Like it or not, you're already making a selection; about who you like to play with, because they play the game the way you like to play.


Absolutely, and I've not suggested otherwise.

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That doesn't mean you have to like their attitude to politics, or their fashion sense, but it does mean you shouldn't go around saying you don't make a judgement on who you play games with, and that the game is all that matters to you.


Well, it is a good thing that I never said that then, isn't it?


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This is not to say that games are some sort of ultimate value, but I play games in order to play games, not to socialise or make friends or to have a good time.


Are you not in fact having a 'good time' by playing the games the way you want to with people who allow you to play that way?

Or would you be happy to play a game with me where I quit halfway through after not playing competitively?
 
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Are you not in fact having a 'good time' by playing the games the way you want to with people who allow you to play that way?


Now and then, yes, around 15% of the time or so (used to be around 5%, for the last years, but I've been changing my approach and it seems around 15% now though the sample size is small). Most of the time the games are fairly unpleasant, but they are necessary in order to pursue some interesting question I have, so I play them and try not to gripe too much.

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That mostly depends on what the (tacit?) agreement was when I entered that game. Did I think we were going to play until the end? Did I also have some particular reason to care about finishing? Is one of my external goals for the game being short-changed? In broad I'd be upset if you attempted to unilaterally change the assumed agreements on which the game was founded in any regard (we'll play this game, we'll only play competitively and solely for the win, we'll play by XYZ rules, we'll play to the end, etc). Changing such agreements unilaterally is not kosher. Getting the other player's agreement to change the founding agreements is much more acceptable, and I'm happy to have that conversation (and to abide by the conclusion) when needed.

Even more broadly and rather more personally, I don't care much about finishing games. Usually by around a third to two thirds of the way through the game (it varies) my primary interests have been assuaged. I'm happy to play out the rest of the game (as that's what I agreed to when I sat down), but it really isn't important to me either way as I've already gotten what I what I wanted when I sat down to the game.

And in this latter line, there are a lot of games I play a third to half way through and then stop and pack it up there. But then we start those games under the explicit agreement that that is what we'll do, and in this way all the expectations and agreements are kept in line.
 
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Gaming for me isn't about people, it's about the game.

Yes I have many great memories of playing games with other people, but also playing great games solo.




I like my share of solo games, but it's more fun playing with the family or the gang..
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