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I'm really new to the board game revolution and I'm having a great time. But there is one thing that is kind of bothering me. There seems to be a HUGE amount of deck building games or variants on that theme. IE: Marvel Dice Masters: Avengers vs. X-MenIs this a recent phenomenon or has this been the case for a while? Like I said I've only started board gaming in the last 5 months or so. Don't get me wrong I love Marvel Dice Masters: Avengers vs. X-Men, Ascension: Rise of Vigil and Legendary: A Marvel Deck Building Game but it just seems like every other game is another deck building game. Not really sure where I'm going with this post but it was just something on my mind I needed to express. Thank You.
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Soon in our series of threads: "Too many Worker placement games?" "Too many Zombie games?" and "Too many WW2 games?"
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There are a huge number of games with almost any popular game mechanism.

It is your job to know what kind of games you and your group like best, in both mechanics and theme, and also supported number of players, and game length.
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I see what you're saying.
 
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Check out the BGG Top 100.

http://boardgamegeek.com/browse/boardgame?sort=rank

That will give you an idea of the variety out there. Deck builders are certainly popular, but there are plenty of other popular genres out there. BGG gives you a great window onto your new hobby.
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There are SO MANY games coming out all the time, that really there is no reason to complain about too many of one type you might not like as much coming out.
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Touchfuzzy wrote:
There are SO MANY games coming out all the time, that really there is no reason to complain about too many of one type you might not like as much coming out.


But if we did not complain then there would be 90% less activity here on BGG.
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I think deck building is slowing down. We aren't quite as inundated with them as we were for a while.
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i think there isn't enough deck builders, card games, or dice games. Heck I love every type of game out there. But I will say that deck builders are my favorite. I'm a huge fan of Wizkids Marvel Dice Masters, virtually undefeated with my Avengers build.

My second favorite has to be worker placement games. Lords of Waterdeep is fantastic. I have the expansion for it, which makes it a little more exciting in my opinion.

The tabletop gaming community has exploded in the past few years and I am very happy about it. I was totally burned out playing games online or just playing games on my console systems.

Try to play some different games like Splendor (whicdh was up for the Spiel des Jahres 2014), Lords of Waterdeep, King of Tokyo favorite of a lot of people), Red Dragon Inn, Kingsburg, Boss Monster, or Love Letter. These are some top games.

You have started out at the right time. Just take your time and read what the games are and see what your group would like to play.
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theericbooth wrote:
...Don't get me wrong I love Marvel Dice Masters: Avengers vs. X-Men, Ascension: Rise of Vigil and Legendary: A Marvel Deck Building Game but it just seems like every other game is another deck building game...

True. There are a lot of Deckbuilding games, since it's a good game mechanism, and thus imitated. The thing is, if you already like those two games, I say keep playing them. If you think you want more Deckbuilding fun, do some research on another one that might interest you and your game group. This means read reviews, watch video reviews and play-throughs, etc.

If your comments are more along the lines of the fact that you like the gaming concept of Deckbuilding and want to try them all, I'm sad to say as a that this is the folly of many of us as we get started. Truly, you cannot play every game. You can certainly buy a lot of them, but playing them all is another thing. If you've only been into board games the last 5 months, keep playing what you like and only add a game at a time after some good research and/or playthroughs. Your wallet and your loved ones will thank you.
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i think there isn't enough deck builders, card games, or dice games. Heck I love every type of game out there. But I will say that deck builders are my favorite. I'm a huge fan of Wizkids Marvel Dice Masters, virtually undefeated with my Avengers build.

My second favorite has to be worker placement games. Lords of Waterdeep is fantastic. I have the expansion for it, which makes it a little more exciting in my opinion.

The tabletop gaming community has exploded in the past few years and I am very happy about it. I was totally burned out playing games online or just playing games on my console systems.

Try to play some different games like Splendor (whicdh was up for the Spiel des Jahres 2014), Lords of Waterdeep, King of Tokyo favorite of a lot of people), Red Dragon Inn, Kingsburg, Boss Monster, or Love Letter. These are some top games.

You have started out at the right time. Just take your time and read what the games are and see what your group would like to play.


I used to be like that when I first joined the hobby a couple years ago.
 
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anime_guru wrote:
i think there isn't enough deck builders, card games, or dice games. Heck I love every type of game out there. But I will say that deck builders are my favorite. I'm a huge fan of Wizkids Marvel Dice Masters, virtually undefeated with my Avengers build.

My second favorite has to be worker placement games. Lords of Waterdeep is fantastic. I have the expansion for it, which makes it a little more exciting in my opinion.

The tabletop gaming community has exploded in the past few years and I am very happy about it. I was totally burned out playing games online or just playing games on my console systems.

Try to play some different games like Splendor (whicdh was up for the Spiel des Jahres 2014), Lords of Waterdeep, King of Tokyo favorite of a lot of people), Red Dragon Inn, Kingsburg, Boss Monster, or Love Letter. These are some top games.

You have started out at the right time. Just take your time and read what the games are and see what your group would like to play.


I used to be like that when I first joined the hobby a couple years ago.


Optimistic, enthusiastic, and excited?
 
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jakobcreutzfeldt wrote:
mlcarter815 wrote:
anime_guru wrote:
i think there isn't enough deck builders, card games, or dice games. Heck I love every type of game out there. But I will say that deck builders are my favorite. I'm a huge fan of Wizkids Marvel Dice Masters, virtually undefeated with my Avengers build.

My second favorite has to be worker placement games. Lords of Waterdeep is fantastic. I have the expansion for it, which makes it a little more exciting in my opinion.

The tabletop gaming community has exploded in the past few years and I am very happy about it. I was totally burned out playing games online or just playing games on my console systems.

Try to play some different games like Splendor (whicdh was up for the Spiel des Jahres 2014), Lords of Waterdeep, King of Tokyo favorite of a lot of people), Red Dragon Inn, Kingsburg, Boss Monster, or Love Letter. These are some top games.

You have started out at the right time. Just take your time and read what the games are and see what your group would like to play.


I used to be like that when I first joined the hobby a couple years ago.


Optimistic, enthusiastic, and excited?


Willing to play any game and thinking there isn't any kind of game I don't enjoy.
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I would say around 18 months before I got past the initial "everything is awesome" phase although some classics didn't click with me like they should, and I still don't get the hype that is Catan even after a second play.

For the topic on hand, I think deck builders are far from over and a game like Star Realms proves that. Direct conflict games with deck building involved has been highly ignored.
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I am also new to the hobby and I understand the feeling. I assume that it is cheaper (maybe easier, even?) for developers to use cards in their games and that is why there are a fair amount of card games out there. Honestly, though? I'd rather see card games any day over game boards that serve little purpose (spin and move yuk).

There are good suggestions in this thread though -- just figure out what game mechanics you enjoy most in a game, research, and you'll find more options. I do frequent tag searches on BGG for storytelling, modular boards, and worker placement because those are the types of games I'm looking to play. Even if I can't afford or find some of them because they're OOP, it's still fun to just see what's out there. Reprints happen all the time, too.
 
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anime_guru wrote:
Try to play some different games like Splendor (whicdh was up for the Spiel des Jahres 2014), Lords of Waterdeep, King of Tokyo favorite of a lot of people), Red Dragon Inn, Kingsburg, Boss Monster, or Love Letter. These are some top games.

Boss Monster is a top game?!
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In my opinion it is in my top 20 games. I think it is fun playing the boss monster, trying to build your dungeons just to lure the hero in only to kill or be killed by him or her. I also like the fact that you can turn it into a "take that" type of game when playing against friends.

I could have gone with other games like Marvel Dice Masters, Star Trek Attack Wing or Quarriors. Heck I even like Nuns on the Run. That can be quite fun when playing with the right people.
 
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I don't know if there are "too many" deck building games, but it definitely has become a kind of fashion, the lazy go-to genre for publishers that get some famous license and target the hobby market. Instead of actually making an effort to design a game, it's easier to use the same formula with little variation.
 
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I don't think there can aver be "too many" of any type of game as long as somebody still wants to play them. It's actually really easy to just ignore games you're not intereested in... not like there aren't any other games around.

That being said i like the basic deck building mechanic so much that i've designed my own game (it's a fully playable, free PnP but still in developement, so if you think deckbuilders are getting old you can contribute and make this one a better deck builder!):

Lords of Grevelheim
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dennisthebadger wrote:

That being said i like the basic deck building mechanic so much that i've designed my own game (it's a fully playable, free PnP but still in developement, so if you think deckbuilders are getting old you can contribute and make this one a better deck builder!):

Lords of Grevelheim


Oh yeah, I've been kind of following that one. Looks pretty cool. I've got so many PnP games. But this one I'll have to print up & take to my local store. Any suggestions Dennis on what the best paper is for games such as yours?
 
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I dont understand why this would actually bother someone
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anime_guru wrote:
Try to play some different games like Splendor (whicdh was up for the Spiel des Jahres 2014), Lords of Waterdeep, King of Tokyo favorite of a lot of people), Red Dragon Inn, Kingsburg, Boss Monster, or Love Letter. These are some top games.

Boss Monster is a top game?!


I mean, if it's on top of a stack of games, sure.
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Soon in our series of threads: "Too many Worker placement games?" "Too many Zombie games?" and "Too many WW2 games?"

But there are.. Who wouldn't like bit of originality..
 
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Oh yeah, I've been kind of following that one. Looks pretty cool. I've got so many PnP games. But this one I'll have to print up & take to my local store. Any suggestions Dennis on what the best paper is for games such as yours?


I'm clueless!
I've mostly been using some slightly higher quality paper (nothing too posh, but a bit heavier than the cheapest stuff and it's also a bit brighter, allowing the colours to look a bit more vibrant. Can't remember the name of the stuff). I sleeve all my cards on top of spare lands from MtG.
 
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bortmonkey wrote:
I dont understand why this would actually bother someone


You never feel fad fatigue?
 
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