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Craig McRoberts
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I will gladly do it for you. It's my favourite part of getting a new game. My boyfriend even knows to save the pieces for me when he gets something.
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imprimis5 wrote:
I will gladly do it for you. It's my favourite part of getting a new game. My boyfriend even knows to save the pieces for me when he gets something.


This is one of my favorite things about getting a new game. That... and sorting the newly punched pieces and putting them in to appropriate storage (i.e. bags, plano boxes, etc.).
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Mirefox wrote:
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What if I slip? Then there's blood all over the game. It's a lose-lose, I tell you.


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Geosphere wrote:
Mirefox wrote:
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What if I slip? Then there's blood all over the game. It's a lose-lose, I tell you.




I would still end up putting my eye out with that thing. Whatever am I to do?

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If punching doesn't work, try kicking. cool
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Mirefox wrote:
Geosphere wrote:
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What if I slip? Then there's blood all over the game. It's a lose-lose, I tell you.




Haha, made my day. Thanks!
Yeah... because someone wearing metal gauntlets is going to do a bang up job trying to do a precision cut using an exacto knife! I think we're back to "what happens if I make a mistake" territory.
 
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Geosphere wrote:


Seriosly that is not a bad idea, will start using that.
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imprimis5 wrote:
I will gladly do it for you.


Of course, there is no pressure in punching out the bits for someone else. You get to walk away and never see it again. Mirefox will have to live with your mangled work and a lifetime of trust issues.
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In my 40+ years of breaking apart counters, I've only had to heal one a bit with a drop of white (PVA) school glue. Flex a sheet back and forth, find the weak points, and get it down to strings and folding like an accordion.
 
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Punch tokens out from the same direction the die cut in. That way, if the paper layer rips, it will be coming off of the waste cardboard, not the token.
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My recent acquisition of Battle Over Britain is making me pause. The backs of the counters are not really cut through. But I do have the knives.
 
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Punch tokens out from the same direction the die cut in. That way, if the paper layer rips, it will be coming off of the waste cardboard, not the token.


Wargames frequently use both sides, no waste in between.
 
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Here's how to get over this problem.

First, get a copy of



Next, punch out all the counters.

Go ahead; just punch away. Don't worry too much.

Okay; you're over it now, right?
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bltzlfsk wrote:
swheelock wrote:
Punch tokens out from the same direction the die cut in. That way, if the paper layer rips, it will be coming off of the waste cardboard, not the token.


Wargames frequently use both sides, no waste in between.


Ah, I didn't explain well enough.

A die cut sheet of tokens is done by (I imagine) pushing a blade through the layers of paper and cardboard. First it goes through the top layer A, then through the cardboard, then partially through the bottom layer B. If you push from B to A, the bottom layer of paper can separate on the token. If you push from A to B, if the paper separates, it will do so on the sprue (I think that's what you call it; the leftover cardboard frame), not the token. Doesn't matter if it's double-sided.
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Thunkd wrote:
Mirefox wrote:
Geosphere wrote:
Mirefox wrote:
Geosphere wrote:


What if I slip? Then there's blood all over the game. It's a lose-lose, I tell you.




Haha, made my day. Thanks!
Yeah... because someone wearing metal gauntlets is going to do a bang up job trying to do a precision cut using an exacto knife! I think we're back to "what happens if I make a mistake" territory.


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Kursplat2 wrote:
Geosphere wrote:
Mirefox wrote:
Geosphere wrote:


What if I slip? Then there's blood all over the game. It's a lose-lose, I tell you.




I would still end up putting my eye out with that thing. Whatever am I to do?

Thanks,
Gregg
(Professional Straight Man)

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swheelock wrote:
bltzlfsk wrote:
swheelock wrote:
Punch tokens out from the same direction the die cut in. That way, if the paper layer rips, it will be coming off of the waste cardboard, not the token.


Wargames frequently use both sides, no waste in between.


Ah, I didn't explain well enough.

A die cut sheet of tokens is done by (I imagine) pushing a blade through the layers of paper and cardboard. First it goes through the top layer A, then through the cardboard, then partially through the bottom layer B. If you push from B to A, the bottom layer of paper can separate on the token. If you push from A to B, if the paper separates, it will do so on the sprue (I think that's what you call it; the leftover cardboard frame), not the token. Doesn't matter if it's double-sided.


It does when the sprue/tree doesn't surround every counter, or offer much margin for error in ripping.



The blade setup of the manufacturing process cuts through all layers (at least when newly sharpened.) But it leaves little tabs uncut which keep the sheet in one piece, usually, until forced out by the consumer.
 
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Yeah you need a knife like that and a cutting board. I mean it is pretty much a necessity if you plan on passing these games on to other people. They don't want to see that you punched it quick with nothing but your knowledge and your fingers. We're talking about money saving cardboard sheets here and die cutting machines that are mostly good enough.

Take the time. Cut the industrial cardboard made from recycled cardboard out right. Make a future owner of your tired out game happy.

The first few don't look like the ones after ha ha.

Usually only the cheapest production values end up with a crazy amount of problems. Like yeah your magical athlete holders don't work because that is a bargain game. And Santy de Cuba. Well there you go. And Roads and Boats? Kind of home grown in production quality. And Castle Merchants? Gets right back to the costs and makers of your game.

La Venise Du Nord punched like butter. I am sure that was purely accidental. And that luscious covering. Oh yeah. Accidental quality for sure. They either spend the money or they don't.
 
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bltzlfsk wrote:
It does when the sprue/tree doesn't surround every counter, or offer much margin for error in ripping.


You've got me there, Chris. I guess the lesson here is: when you have an orange, don't eat it like an apple.
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I just picked up a copy of Jaipur and was astonished to find that the tokens were already punched! So... strange... someone else punched my tokens for me and I feel violated!
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I volunteered at a con a few years ago and got assigned to punch out a few copies of Puzzle Strike for a tournament. It was my favorite part of the whole con.
 
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This is so funny. I let my three year old do all the punching since he is too young to play. He LOVES to punch boards. We haven't had any problems.....yet.
 
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I punched a copy of Mauna Kea last week. It has dozens of tiles so firmly wedged in the punch sheets it became a physical and mental struggle to get them all out intact. But I would have hated it if it had come pre-punched, that makes always makes me a little sad inside meeple
 
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Just press them out gently, never punch them out.
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