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Francisco Nogueira
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http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4942

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One part of the article isn't technically correct, is it?

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A number of Corp decks use Power Shutdown (Mala Tempora, 58) to empty R&D before layering events back into it with Jackson Howard (Opening Moves, 15) and playing them all in a single click via Accelerated Diagnostics (Mala Tempora, 52). However, a Runner who has installed Eden Shard can simply trash it to force the Corp to draw two cards after it empties R&D with Power Shutdown. Instead of wondering how much meat damage he’s about to take, such a Runner simply forces the Corp to draw when it cannot, and he wins the game.


After the Corp uses Power Shutdown, they get the first priority window, during which they can activate Jackson Howard. It's only after J-How gets popped that the Runner can use Eden Shard. Of course, doing so means that Accelerated Diagnostics will only have a single card to fire on, so it should still thwart the combo, as far as I can reckon.
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Well... It depends if Jackson Howard is already installed when Corporation plays Power Shutdown.

But yeah - usually Jackson is already on the table so it is exactly how you say it is Brodie
 
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Agent Archer wrote:
One part of the article isn't technically correct, is it?

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A number of Corp decks use Power Shutdown (Mala Tempora, 58) to empty R&D before layering events back into it with Jackson Howard (Opening Moves, 15) and playing them all in a single click via Accelerated Diagnostics (Mala Tempora, 52). However, a Runner who has installed Eden Shard can simply trash it to force the Corp to draw two cards after it empties R&D with Power Shutdown. Instead of wondering how much meat damage he’s about to take, such a Runner simply forces the Corp to draw when it cannot, and he wins the game.


After the Corp uses Power Shutdown, they get the first priority window, during which they can activate Jackson Howard. It's only after J-How gets popped that the Runner can use Eden Shard. Of course, doing so means that Accelerated Diagnostics will only have a single card to fire on, so it should still thwart the combo, as far as I can reckon.


Right, the Corp would always use the JH first.
 
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But you can use it before accelerated diagnostics
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theodorelogan wrote:
But you can use it before accelerated diagnostics


Exactly - you won't win the game right there, but odds are that the corp is in trouble.

Situation

Click 1: Install JHOW
Click 2: Power Shutdown!!!!!
Corp uses jackson
Runner uses Shard
Click 3: ???

The corp might still be able to win, he has this click and maybe 1 more turn..., but the shard is still a 9 out of 10 on the hardness of counter scale to power shutdown combos.
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Captain_Frisk wrote:
theodorelogan wrote:
But you can use it before accelerated diagnostics


Exactly - you won't win the game right there, but odds are that the corp is in trouble.

Situation

Click 1: Install JHOW
Click 2: Power Shutdown!!!!!
Corp uses jackson
Runner uses Shard
Click 3: ???

The corp might still be able to win, he has this click and maybe 1 more turn..., but the shard is still a 9 out of 10 on the hardness of counter scale to power shutdown combos.


Now all you have to do is find and install your single copy before they put their combo together. No pressure.
 
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Any of the 3 shards will kill the combo.
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ffaristocrat wrote:
Any of the 3 shards will kill the combo.


Ha! An archives dig on the corp turn after they dump their whole deck would be hilariously satisfying, though it should never happen.
 
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ffaristocrat wrote:
Any of the 3 shards will kill the combo.


Maybe I haven't been following along well enough. What are the other two shards?
 
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Well, I think this pack has answered the question about if we want slower cycles. An emphatic no! I want more cards now!
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