Wesley Jones
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I have the base game (Europe) but usually it's only me and my wife who play so I need a better 2 player map.

For those who have played at least 2 of the 3 maps (Switzerland/India; Nordic; UK), which was your favorite?

(P.S. We don't like to be cutthroat).

Thanks you.

[edit: Also posting this over in the Nordic forum]
 
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A lot of people, myself included, think Switzerland is broken, in that if you establish an east-west route and keep going back for more tickets, you'll (almost) always win.

I think Nordic is an excellent 2-player map.

I'm not sure what you mean by not wanting to be cut-throat. The whole point of Switzerland and Nordic is to make it tighter, creating some tension for fewer players. If you want to do your own thing and not get in each other's way, just play Europe. I suppose you could also play Nordic with the double routes (which are only supposed to be used with 3 players). But I think that would be a bit boring.
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I haven't played neither UK nor Nordic, but I do own the India/Switzerland map - as well as Europe.

Switzerland is a very tight map, so you will end up blocking each other. Generally, the overall experience with Switzerland is quite different from that of Europe, especially since Switzerland kinda demands that you draw lots and lots of tickets. (I hear that Nordic is quite similar with regards to tightness, but, alas, I haven't tried it.)

India is probably what you are looking for: It is bigger than Switzerland, but not as big as Europe. In contrast to Europe you are quite likely to find that many of your routes cross in a 2P game. However, unlike Switzerland, India feels more forgiving and less constricted. I think India is very well suited for a friendly 2P game; it becomes very tight with 4P, though. (Moreover, in my opinion it is also the prettiest TTR board out there.)
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USA Mega game is actually really solid for two player and a bit more wide-open than the maps you've asked about if you're looking to stay out of each others way (that is, there are few 'choke points' and multiple reasonable ways to make most connections).

I only played Switzerland a few times and it never really seemed very interesting for reasons noted by a previous poster.

I have played India and Nordic many times 2p and they are both really great. However, they are both hard to play without getting in each others way. I'd go so far as to say they are somewhat of a chore to play 'non-cutthroat'. Much more fun (in my opinion) to just agree they are tight maps and there are good reasons (involving current and/or potential future routes) for taking choke points and that should be expected and planned for (rather than having to risk hurting feelings and/or defend each potentially misconstrued action).
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I'm not sure what you mean by not wanting to be cut-throat
I meant not being a jerk and seeing that your partner is about to need that route, so you take it from them. We like to play a bit friendlier but the Europe map is too big for just two players so you feel like your playing solitaire. I wanted a bit more interaction (tighter map) but still not required to be a jerk. I realize a tighter map means more choke points. I like Henry's observation:
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just agree they are tight maps and there are good reasons (involving current and/or potential future routes) for taking choke points and that should be expected and planned for
So with that observation, I guess I want to back-track and ask that you disregard my cut-throat comment and just comment on which is the funnest for two.
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luvmywife wrote:
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I'm not sure what you mean by not wanting to be cut-throat
I meant not being a jerk and seeing that your partner is about to need that route, so you take it from them. We like to play a bit friendlier but the Europe map is too big for just two players so you feel like your playing solitaire. I wanted a bit more interaction (tighter map) but still not required to be a jerk. I realize a tighter map means more choke points. I like Henry's observation:
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just agree they are tight maps and there are good reasons (involving current and/or potential future routes) for taking choke points and that should be expected and planned for
So with that observation, I guess I want to back-track and ask that you disregard my cut-throat comment and just comment on which is the funnest for two.

I like both quite a bit but if I had to pick one for 2 player I think it'd have to be India. The 'Mandala' bonus is fun and unique among TTR variants and the rules are easier/smoother. Not that the Nordic rules are difficult per-se but it is easy to get something wrong if you're new or haven't played in a while (double routes that don't look like doubles, no wilds on normal routes, two matching cards as a wild, and any four cards as a wild on the long route in the Northeast).
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If you already have Europe, then you can get Ticket to Ride: Europa 1912. The "Big City" tickets in this expansion close the map up a bit for lower player counts, as you are much more likely to be making routes to/from the same cities.

India is perhaps my favourite, though it does have definite choke-points, there's usually a way around. We haven't managed to "break" Switzerland, so that map also works for us.
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If you don't like being cutthroat, you should definitely play Swiss. Nordic is a great, well-designed map, but even when you aren't trying to block each other, it's very easy to create situations where your move makes one or more of the other player's moves impossible. Among players who would specifically say they aren't very cutthroat, this seems likely to create hard feelings. In Switzerland there is almost always a way around. I haven't played the fan created UK map, but one would assume that is free???

Switzerland isn't broken. It can turn into a drawfest if you let it, but in practice it's very hard to link up all the countries, at least if both players are aware of this strategy. I guess my real point is that deliberate blocking in Switzerland can feel less "mean" than accidental blocking in Nordic. And both maps are fine, fun games. By that logic, I think you should get Switzerland.

Also, Swiss comes with India on the back, and while I think the sweet spot there is 3-4 players, it's pretty fun with 2 as well, And again, you get blocked all the time while always feeling there is something you can do, so it isn't very upsetting.
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Wesley Jones
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Thank you all for your responses.

I also just saw this thread which asks the same question (should have looked before I posted.)

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/788108/nordic-countries-...
 
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