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Subject: Hero: Falcon - Completed rss

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Julien Marinelli
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Hello everyone,

My second contribution is a hero.
I wanted to give a perfect sidekick to Captain America. And who's better than Falcon to assume this role?

It's gameplay is very similar to Emma Frost. Not any big surprises but still a very good new avenger that will enhance Captain's color skills.

Hope you will enjoy it


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Edit : Commons have been changed
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Re: Hero Falcon
I would recommend one of these for your Uncommon.

Each player may reveal an A(vengers) card to draw a card.

Each player may reveal another A(vengers) card. Any who do draw a card.
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Re: Hero Falcon
Perhaps you should change Common 2's combo power from Covert to Ranged so that the Commons work together and push the need for multiple colors.
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logan3825 wrote:
I would recommend one of these for your Uncommon.

Each player may reveal an A(vengers) card to draw a card.

Each player may reveal another A(vengers) card. Any who do draw a card.


Definitely

My english is kinda rusty. Sorry for that.
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FrankieP wrote:
Perhaps you should change Common 2's combo power from Covert to Ranged so that the Commons work together and push the need for multiple colors.


The idea was to make a hero to complete Captain America's colors (blue and red). So, I can't really change it for the Common 2. And I think it would be too powerful to have same colors for the commons. Especially for a more support oriented hero(e.g. Emma Frost).
But I can make one if you wanna try it

Or maybe the Common 2 should be a completly different power.
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Vin Damage wrote:
logan3825 wrote:
I would recommend one of these for your Uncommon.

Each player may reveal an A(vengers) card to draw a card.

Each player may reveal another A(vengers) card. Any who do draw a card.


Definitely

My english is kinda rusty. Sorry for that.


I replaced it by the exact Emma Frost text card:

"Each player may reveal another Hero. Each player who does draws a card."
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Re: Hero Falcon
Vin Damage wrote:
FrankieP wrote:
Perhaps you should change Common 2's combo power from Covert to Ranged so that the Commons work together and push the need for multiple colors.


The idea was to make a hero to complete Captain America's colors (blue and red). So, I can't really change it for the Common 2. And I think it would be too powerful to have same colors for the commons. Especially for a more support oriented hero(e.g. Emma Frost).
But I can make one if you wanna try it

Or maybe the Common 2 should be a completly different power.


I'm not sure you understood what I was suggesting. The card should stay Covert. The Combo power/effect should change to ranged so that the 2 commons play off each other.
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Re: Hero Falcon
FrankieP wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
FrankieP wrote:
Perhaps you should change Common 2's combo power from Covert to Ranged so that the Commons work together and push the need for multiple colors.


The idea was to make a hero to complete Captain America's colors (blue and red). So, I can't really change it for the Common 2. And I think it would be too powerful to have same colors for the commons. Especially for a more support oriented hero(e.g. Emma Frost).
But I can make one if you wanna try it

Or maybe the Common 2 should be a completly different power.


I'm not sure you understood what I was suggesting. The card should stay Covert. The Combo power/effect should change to ranged so that the 2 commons play off each other.


Agreed, it would create more functionality within the hero set.
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jhochges wrote:
FrankieP wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
FrankieP wrote:
Perhaps you should change Common 2's combo power from Covert to Ranged so that the Commons work together and push the need for multiple colors.


The idea was to make a hero to complete Captain America's colors (blue and red). So, I can't really change it for the Common 2. And I think it would be too powerful to have same colors for the commons. Especially for a more support oriented hero(e.g. Emma Frost).
But I can make one if you wanna try it

Or maybe the Common 2 should be a completly different power.


I'm not sure you understood what I was suggesting. The card should stay Covert. The Combo power/effect should change to ranged so that the 2 commons play off each other.


Agreed, it would create more functionality within the hero set.


You're right, I misunderstood what you meant .

I'll make the change.
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Vin Damage wrote:
jhochges wrote:
FrankieP wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
FrankieP wrote:
Perhaps you should change Common 2's combo power from Covert to Ranged so that the Commons work together and push the need for multiple colors.


The idea was to make a hero to complete Captain America's colors (blue and red). So, I can't really change it for the Common 2. And I think it would be too powerful to have same colors for the commons. Especially for a more support oriented hero(e.g. Emma Frost).
But I can make one if you wanna try it

Or maybe the Common 2 should be a completly different power.


I'm not sure you understood what I was suggesting. The card should stay Covert. The Combo power/effect should change to ranged so that the 2 commons play off each other.


Agreed, it would create more functionality within the hero set.


You're right, I misunderstood what you meant .

I'll make the change.


Done

Thanks for your advices
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Re: Hero Falcon
I like the "each player may reveal a card, if then draw a card' mechanic. Gets everyone involved with a single player's turn. Nice work!
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justinbrauchler wrote:
I like the "each player may reveal a card, if then draw a card' mechanic. Gets everyone involved with a single player's turn. Nice work!


Thank you but all the credit should go to the Legendary game designers. I've just copied/pasted the Emma Frost Uncommon to Falcon (which works perfectly with his background ).
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Re: Hero Falcon
TALON STRIKE
A port of Emma's. But why is this Ranged? It should be Strength. He's kicking you. You would need to change the trigger on the other common again.

Everything else looks very simple and of course, similar to Emma.

Looks simple but elegant.

 
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TALON STRIKE
A port of Emma's. But why is this Ranged? It should be Strength. He's kicking you. You would need to change the trigger on the other common again.

Everything else looks very simple and of course, similar to Emma.

Looks simple but elegant.



I really need a range common card with Falcon for the combinations with Captain America. Maybe I could find a better name than Talon Strike (but I won't change the art )
 
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Re: Hero Falcon
Vin Damage wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
logan3825 wrote:
I would recommend one of these for your Uncommon.

Each player may reveal an A(vengers) card to draw a card.

Each player may reveal another A(vengers) card. Any who do draw a card.


Definitely

My english is kinda rusty. Sorry for that.


I replaced it by the exact Emma Frost text card:

"Each player may reveal another Hero. Each player who does draws a card."

Better yet.
 
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Vin Damage wrote:
okami31 wrote:
TALON STRIKE
A port of Emma's. But why is this Ranged? It should be Strength. He's kicking you. You would need to change the trigger on the other common again.

Everything else looks very simple and of course, similar to Emma.

Looks simple but elegant.



I really need a range common card with Falcon for the combinations with Captain America. Maybe I could find a better name than Talon Strike (but I won't change the art )


Yeah, but you'd be forcing it.

Angel, who is the closest match as the other top Marvel air support, is Covert, Strength and Instinct.

 
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Re: Hero Falcon
okami31 wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
okami31 wrote:
TALON STRIKE
A port of Emma's. But why is this Ranged? It should be Strength. He's kicking you. You would need to change the trigger on the other common again.

Everything else looks very simple and of course, similar to Emma.

Looks simple but elegant.



I really need a range common card with Falcon for the combinations with Captain America. Maybe I could find a better name than Talon Strike (but I won't change the art )


Yeah, but you'd be forcing it.

Angel, who is the closest match as the other top Marvel air support, is Covert, Strength and Instinct.



As Falcon is a bird trainer and have a mental link with is pet Redwing, maybe we can consider than sending it to face the ennemy is a ranged attack? And "Talon Strike" can fit the description .
 
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Re: Hero Falcon
Vin Damage wrote:
okami31 wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
okami31 wrote:
TALON STRIKE
A port of Emma's. But why is this Ranged? It should be Strength. He's kicking you. You would need to change the trigger on the other common again.

Everything else looks very simple and of course, similar to Emma.

Looks simple but elegant.



I really need a range common card with Falcon for the combinations with Captain America. Maybe I could find a better name than Talon Strike (but I won't change the art )


Yeah, but you'd be forcing it.

Angel, who is the closest match as the other top Marvel air support, is Covert, Strength and Instinct.



As Falcon is a bird trainer and have a mental link with is pet Redwing, maybe we can consider than sending it to face the ennemy is a ranged attack? And "Talon Strike" can fit the description .


You know. I was thinking of that after I posted. If he still has that power which I think some writers opted to ignore and others showcased it, then you can justify the Ranged by being a mind-type of power just like Emma Frost's. But I think it would be better if the name of the card didn't evoke an actual physical strike, but rather spoke more of the avian-human connection.
 
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Re: Hero Falcon
okami31 wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
okami31 wrote:
Vin Damage wrote:
okami31 wrote:
TALON STRIKE
A port of Emma's. But why is this Ranged? It should be Strength. He's kicking you. You would need to change the trigger on the other common again.

Everything else looks very simple and of course, similar to Emma.

Looks simple but elegant.



I really need a range common card with Falcon for the combinations with Captain America. Maybe I could find a better name than Talon Strike (but I won't change the art )


Yeah, but you'd be forcing it.

Angel, who is the closest match as the other top Marvel air support, is Covert, Strength and Instinct.



As Falcon is a bird trainer and have a mental link with is pet Redwing, maybe we can consider than sending it to face the ennemy is a ranged attack? And "Talon Strike" can fit the description .


You know. I was thinking of that after I posted. If he still has that power which I think some writers opted to ignore and others showcased it, then you can justify the Ranged by being a mind-type of power just like Emma Frost's. But I think it would be better if the name of the card didn't evoke an actual physical strike, but rather spoke more of the avian-human connection.


You're right, I must think of a better name.
 
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Re: Hero Falcon
Well, it could start with:

Falcon's
Raptor's
Redwing's
Sky's

and be followed by

Eyes
Link
Mind

If you do so, you may consider making the Ranged card a recruit, and changing the second common to attack...it can still be a Covert attack and it could be a Falcon Strike...covert because the enemy wasn't expecting an attack from above (which could benefit from Elektra's "If this is the first card you play...").

It all depends if you are open to more changing or if you're satisfied with whatcha got.
 
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I'm not sure to follow completly.

I could swap the arts of the commons, so "Watchers" would become "Sky's Eyes", a range recruit card and "Falcon Strike" a covert damage card.

Is it what you got in mind?


I do not know the power of Elektra, Dark city should be in possession in early september

 
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Oh, I was thinking that his telepathic link with birds wouldn't be an attack, since it's more about seeing through bird's eyes, etc. So it would be what Watchers is now.

Then his covert will be the attack, but how can his attack be covert and not strength? Well, it would symbolize him suddenly diving down and kicking the enemy, appearing out of nowhere.

I posted Elektra's stuff in your thunderbolt thread.

 
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Re: Hero Falcon
Ok, so here are my suggestions:

common 1
Talon Strike
Covert
cost 3
attack 1
Draw a card
If this is the first Avengers card you've played this turn, your next Avengers Hero gets +1 of its printed value.

Either recruit or attack. So Cap can provide the one-two punch!

common 2
Watchers in the Sky (Watchers by itself is not that snazzy a title)
Ranged
cost 3
recruit 2+
(covert) +1 recruit
 
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Seems good to me

I'll make the changes.
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Done

I will add "Completed" to the title of the thread.

Thanks again
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