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Rich Radgoski
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I've tried to read the different posts on CC but I'm still not sure I'm on the same page.

Can 1 unit wipe out many units?

lets say 3 units and a leader move into melee with 1 unit. Players opt to do a mass melee. (I'm not sure there are many options except mass at this point.)

Let's say player 1 has 3-1 odds and the defender has 1-2 odds. I think player 1 needed a 7 or under to kill - rolls it and eliminates the single. Simultaneous combat allows Player 2 to roll and needs a 5 or under to kill - rolls it and...eliminates the entire stack?

I think I understand that if you commit all the forces this can happen but seems far fetched. 1 squad takes out 3 in melee?

Could the player 1 do something different to change that outcome without changing the odds?

What should player 1 do?

 
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T. Dauphin
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Arkobla Conn wrote:
I've tried to read the different posts on CC but I'm still not sure I'm on the same page.

Can 1 unit wipe out many units?


Yes.

Arkobla Conn wrote:

lets say 3 units and a leader move into melee with 1 unit. Players opt to do a mass melee. (I'm not sure there are many options except mass at this point.)

Let's say player 1 has 3-1 odds and the defender has 1-2 odds. I think player 1 needed a 7 or under to kill - rolls it and eliminates the single. Simultaneous combat allows Player 2 to roll and needs a 5 or under to kill - rolls it and...eliminates the entire stack?


Correct.

Arkobla Conn wrote:

I think I understand that if you commit all the forces this can happen but seems far fetched. 1 squad takes out 3 in melee?

Could the player 1 do something different to change that outcome without changing the odds?

What should player 1 do?


This is all possible, just not so likely. And player 2 is risking an all or nothing effort. He would have better chances of taking out just one squad. It would depend on how desperate he was to inflict casualties.
If this really feels too dangerous for player 1, then don't commit so many squads. Leave others just nearby/adjacent to deal with the heroic enemy in the next turn. Nothing else can be done within the melee, itself.

Edit: Well, if you happen to have the option of some LMGs, adding a couple of those would increase your odds without committing more men.


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i totally agree with Dauphin. I always hesitate using strong units in CC because it is so violent, my weaker opponent may be KIA but so may my stronger 838s. My worst experience was advancing 3x467 and 9-1 into CC with a lone 8-1, sure enough my opponent rolls '1,1' and takes out the stack.

I'll mention what i misplayed for years - a 467 vs a 666 is not a 1:1 attack (TK5). It falls to 1:2 (TK4).
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Rich Radgoski
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thanks guys
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I find that it helps to understand how this could happen by looking at it from the proper perspective...
Its not man versus man locked in mortal combat hand to hand but more like small groups of soldiers in a large area clearing a building room by room.
one man could conceivably take out a whole platoon if he's skilled and lucky enough.
as for the rules, if I'm right, and I'm sure someone will say I'm NOT, this while issue was addressed in GI...
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