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Damien York
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Next game of Eclipse, this is how I'm going to play:

Hide each players ship upgrades behind shields.

Whenever a ship is built that player will reveal what their upgrades currently are. They will calculate and write down that ship's stats, then hide their upgrades again. That ship will have those stats for the rest of the game or until destroyed, and will not be altered by later changes to player's board.

Research will still be public knowledge.

Anybody have a reason why this won't work?
 
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It'll work, but it'll be very very fiddly. Also, you may want to provide some kind of upgrade action that lets you upgrade all ships in friendly sectors to current type. Otherwise, you'll encourage people to only build very late in the game.
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You would have to number or mark ships of the same category to keep track.
It's also a lot of hassle. What is the perceived gain? cool
 
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Radosław Michalak
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Bubba HoTep wrote:
Anybody have a reason why this won't work?

Much longer game.
Real mess during battle, planning actions, etc.
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Damien York
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I'll have to try that one. Thanks!
 
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Damien York
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I'd print out a sheet of things like this real small:

cut them out and write up the stats on those as they come out. Looking at it, I realise that I forgot to put a spot to record missiles, but anyway.

The reason I wanted to try it is I like the idea of the arms race in eclipse, but in practice everyone I play with gets way too hung up on were everyone else is at and the ships and the combat suffers for it.
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Initiative?
 
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Bubba HoTep wrote:


Still, you'll have to mark your ships somehow. How else do you keep track which ship has which upgrades?

In the end, it feels like an unnecessary complicated and time-consuming thing which is making battles and decisions leading up to battles much more complicated. Which in turn, might take away the fun for some players...
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Damien York
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I'd probably just use the paper as the ships. Might even print them out as tokens. I realise that this is going along way to make a very aesthetically clean game very ugly but at least it'll be easier to fit all the ships on one tile in those gigantic battles.

I am kind of getting that I should be playing some other space game rather than muddying the brilliance of Eclipse. BUT I doubt it could possibly be any more convoluted than that time we tried to play Eclipse with the full compliment of nine so hey whatever.
 
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