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Looks pretty cool...
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Yeah . . . I'll be there . . . and I'll buy the 3-D blu-ray, too. I'm such a Marvel lemming . . .
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I saw it last night. Looks pretty darn awesome and we'll be seeing it opening weekend.
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Yeah, and? It's got robots, and fighting against all odds, and some moments of weakness, and times when things look bleak, and [insert action trope here]. I do NOT understand the excitement. I'm sure it will be a perfectly serviceable comic book actioner, more coherent and smarter than anything Michael Bay has done in his career, but so what? You're not all sick of this shit yet? [queue a series of "no" "nope" "no way" "hater!"]

(yes I am familiar with the Ultron story from the comics)

*edit* That came off a bit more confrontational than I meant it to, and I don't mean to scoff at people who are excited. I just don't see how this is so different than [THAT] where [THAT] is a thousand other movies over the past several years and into the next several years.
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Landstander wrote:
Yeah, and? It's got robots, and fighting against all odds, and some moments of weakness, and times when things look bleak, and [insert action trope here]. I do NOT understand the excitement. I'm sure it will be a perfectly serviceable comic book actioner, more coherent and smarter than anything Michael Bay has done in his career, but so what? You're not all sick of this shit yet? [queue a series of "no" "nope" "no way" "hater!"]

(yes I am familiar with the Ultron story from the comics)

*edit* That came off a bit more confrontational than I meant it to, and I don't mean to scoff at people who are excited. I just don't see how this is so different than [THAT] where [THAT] is a thousand other movies over the past several years and into the next several years.


Yes, the Marvel movies are formulaic, like most comics. But they are entertaining. Thought-provoking? Not so much.
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Kinda sounds like the Age of Raymond Reddington.
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I hope everyone heard the Pinocchio theme in the background, slowed down probably quarter-speed. "I've got no strings to hold me down."
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What the heck does "APPROPRIATE AUDIENCES" mean?
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Landstander wrote:
I just don't see how this is so different than [THAT] where [THAT] is a thousand other movies over the past several years and into the next several years.


It has a Hulk.
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I hope everyone heard the Pinocchio theme in the background, slowed down probably quarter-speed. "I've got no strings to hold me down."


Yep. I thought it was interesting.
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What the heck does "APPROPRIATE AUDIENCES" mean?


It means they match the content of the preview to the content of the movie they are showing. So, if you go to the theater to see a Disney movie, you won't see a preview for 50 Shades of Grey.
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Yeah, and? It's got robots, and fighting against all odds, and some moments of weakness, and times when things look bleak, and [insert action trope here]. I do NOT understand the excitement. I'm sure it will be a perfectly serviceable comic book actioner, more coherent and smarter than anything Michael Bay has done in his career, but so what? You're not all sick of this shit yet? [queue a series of "no" "nope" "no way" "hater!"]

(yes I am familiar with the Ultron story from the comics)

*edit* That came off a bit more confrontational than I meant it to, and I don't mean to scoff at people who are excited. I just don't see how this is so different than [THAT] where [THAT] is a thousand other movies over the past several years and into the next several years.


Yes, the Marvel movies are formulaic, like most comics. But they are entertaining. Thought-provoking? Not so much.


Well, it has worked for the James Bond franchise since the early 1960s . . .

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Landstander wrote:
Yeah, and? It's got robots, and fighting against all odds, and some moments of weakness, and times when things look bleak, and [insert action trope here]. I do NOT understand the excitement.


I'm a happy curmudgeon, but we are living in the goddamn golden age of movie geekery.

Look at the last Bond flick (Skyfall). You know what it had to be? A Bond flick. You know what it was? Gorgeous. Nominated for best cinematography and arguably deserved to win. (Knife fight in front of blue screen, entrance to Casino, Javier Bardeen's entrance, etc etc etc). And it took the standard Bond format and inverted it. It was clever, in addition to being a Bond movie.

Look at Avengers. You know what it had to have? The Avengers.

But it also had good writing (rare in any movie, amazingly rare in a blockbuster), good acting (I'm not talking about Robert Downey Jr, whose great portrayal of Robert Downer Jr was spot on, I'm talking about the people around him). Snappy dialogue. Interesting Fights (I'm looking at you, Man of Steel). Sure it was manipulative, but it was a lot more than stuff blowin' up real purty.

The Avengers appeals to the teenage me, to be sure, but it's an incredibly polished movie, and not just the CGI. Pixar's secret weapon is that they have time to rewrite the script 50 times to make it rock solid, and the Avengers had that feel. "Joss Whedon is my master now" is such an old joke that it came out 10+ years ago, I think. But he's a fanboy of Comic books who makes Shakespeare plays in his house in his spare time. And, at their best, comics should be Shakespearean.

So yeah, I'm excited about Avengers 2.
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Is it wrong that the shot of Cap's shield got me misty-eyed?
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Landstander wrote:
Yeah, and? It's got robots, and fighting against all odds, and some moments of weakness, and times when things look bleak, and [insert action trope here]. I do NOT understand the excitement. I'm sure it will be a perfectly serviceable comic book actioner, more coherent and smarter than anything Michael Bay has done in his career, but so what? You're not all sick of this shit yet? [queue a series of "no" "nope" "no way" "hater!"]

(yes I am familiar with the Ultron story from the comics)

*edit* That came off a bit more confrontational than I meant it to, and I don't mean to scoff at people who are excited. I just don't see how this is so different than [THAT] where [THAT] is a thousand other movies over the past several years and into the next several years.


Yes, the Marvel movies are formulaic, like most comics. But they are entertaining. Thought-provoking? Not so much.


Well, it has worked for the James Bond franchise since the early 1960s . . .


I agree somewhat.
These movies do follow a format, but that doesn't mean they can't be entertaining. Just as with James Bond, there are good movies and bad movies in the franchise.
Personally, I really enjoyed both Captain America movies a lot.
I never cared for superhero movies before, but what Marvel is doing is pretty cool.

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Is it wrong that the shot of Cap's shield got me misty-eyed?

Don't worry, he'll live. (this time...)
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Is it going to be a formulaic popcorn movie? Yes. Is that a bad thing? No.

Just because it follows a general formula doesn't mean it can't be well executed. Most of the time I go into movies knowing full well were they're going to end up, but I'm sitting in the chair for the journey.
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the manatee wrote:
Is it wrong that the shot of Cap's shield got me misty-eyed?


First time (and hopefully only time in film). I've gotten jaded by the broken shield from Marvel using it in every event to show how defeated the heroes are.
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I love how they made a Pinocchio reference sound sinister. Awesome.
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I hate when they give robots angry eyebrows.


It's competition with Peter Capaldi's eyebrows.
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bulldog93 wrote:
Landstander wrote:
Yeah, and? It's got robots, and fighting against all odds, and some moments of weakness, and times when things look bleak, and [insert action trope here]. I do NOT understand the excitement. I'm sure it will be a perfectly serviceable comic book actioner, more coherent and smarter than anything Michael Bay has done in his career, but so what? You're not all sick of this shit yet? [queue a series of "no" "nope" "no way" "hater!"]

(yes I am familiar with the Ultron story from the comics)

*edit* That came off a bit more confrontational than I meant it to, and I don't mean to scoff at people who are excited. I just don't see how this is so different than [THAT] where [THAT] is a thousand other movies over the past several years and into the next several years.


Yes, the Marvel movies are formulaic, like most comics. But they are entertaining. Thought-provoking? Not so much.



I'd go a bit further by saying that at least 70% of what Hollywood is offering to the viewer is highly formulaic. And Cap 2 was smarter and certainly more thought-provoking by referencing contemporary politics than most action movies from recent years. But I'd agree that this particular movie is more the exception than the rule: Thor 2 was really everything but thought-provoking.
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tatoolo wrote:
I hate when they give robots angry eyebrows.


Well, otherwise how would you know they're angry???
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I really like the "open the door" bit.
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