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Andrew S. Fischer
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Anyone got any "weighty" contenders for the crown? (I'm literally talking weight here, as in pounds and ounces.)
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I like Greenland, but I think the more recent Sierra Madre titles are better: High Frontier, Bios: Megafauna, and Pax Porf. I recently got my copy of Erosion played a few times and really enjoyed that one too. They're all fun.
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I love High Frontier and Bios: Megafauna, but I think the OP's intent was that Greenland is a very small game that packs in a lot of theme, mechanics, and playability; a "lightweight heavyweight" if you will.

(I love all three for the record!)
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Pax Porf is similar weight. Erosion is lighter!

I scanned my highly rated games and here are some others that can go toe-to-toe with Greenland keeping weight in mind:

Trick of the Rails
Intrigue
Ninety-Nine
So Long Sucker
Win, Lose, or Banana
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Gazpar wrote:

You lost me here To me it's only one tiny step above rock, paper, scissors!
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juanma99 wrote:
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You lost me here To me it's only one tiny step above rock, paper, scissors!
It's three cards, and much more fun than RPS. So, similar heavy/weight ratio, I'm guessing.
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The weight to fun ratio of Win, Lose, Banana is very high. It is also a great little persuasion/negotiation game, something the Sierra Madre fans will appreciate. Plus it takes about 30 seconds to explain and play a game, so the commitment level is about as low as you can get. Add beer for enhanced enjoyment.
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Outside of Pax Porfiriana, I can't think of any other game that has as much thematic content as Greenland per weight. (The rules booklet might be heavier and have a higher volume than the other components combined). I can think of games that are deeper gameplay wise like Intrigue, but, disregarding its brilliance, Intrigue hardly oozes theme.
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Cole Wehrle wrote:
Outside of Pax Porfiriana, I can't think of any other game that has as much thematic content as Greenland per weight. (The rules booklet might be heavier and have a higher volume than the other components combined). I can think of games that are deeper gameplay wise like Intrigue, but, disregarding its brilliance, Intrigue hardly oozes theme.


Agreed, although I'm not sure the OP required the game to be thematic. Just one you think is great and doesn't weigh a whole lot. I enjoyed reviewing all games I've rated 8-10 based on weight.
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Pax Porfiriana is the first game that came to my mind when this question came up

There are other "ounce" games that I can think of but none have the depth of Phil Eklund games. The other "ounce" games that came to mind were: Court of the Medici and Race for the Galaxy.
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Games I rate higher than Greenland that also weight less

Hanabi
The Ravens of Thri Sashari
The Resistance
Trick of the Rails

Innovation's close, but it weighs a hair over Greenland.
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Pax Porfiriana is the first game that came to my mind when this question came up

Agreed about Pax. I also think very highly of Friday, despite its pasted on theme. 2 de Mayo is pretty clever. Also, there were a lot of great micro-games back in the day; my favorite was probably The Creature That Ate Sheboygan.
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Apart from Pax, Hannabi and Friday, I've enjoyed a lot Cambria, a dice fest, but a fun one.
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Airborne Commander that I bought in Essen, as well as Greenland has a similar feel as Friday,and is almost as challenging in gameplay as GL if less heavy in iconography.
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I'll second 2 de Mayo and add Traders of Osaka.
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+1 for Traders of Osaka. Thanks for reminding me that this have this pretty interesting 2 player game.
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Apart from Pax, Hannabi and Friday, I've enjoyed a lot Cambria, a dice fest, but a fun one.

Interesting - I hadn't heard of Cambria, but it looks like something I might enjoy. I see an earlier game called Hibernia from the same source, but my GeekBuddies give Cambria the higher rating.
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I haven't played Hibernia, but I've been also told that Cambria is the better game. I hope you will enjoy it, if you get the chance to play it.

Two very small nitpicks about the game:

* The board has two sides, to allow you to play in two different lands: Cambria and Cumbria. Cumbria board is much more difficult to read than Cambria.

* Playing with some people, they get VI and IV confused, specially if sitting just opposite the board. I guess that some people does not like Roman Numerals

Anyway, my endorsement for Cambria/Cumbria.


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Cole Wehrle wrote:
Outside of Pax Porfiriana, I can't think of any other game that has as much thematic content as Greenland per weight. (The rules booklet might be heavier and have a higher volume than the other components combined). I can think of games that are deeper gameplay wise like Intrigue, but, disregarding its brilliance, Intrigue hardly oozes theme.


I can think of one...
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Tigrillo wrote:
Cole Wehrle wrote:
Outside of Pax Porfiriana, I can't think of any other game that has as much thematic content as Greenland per weight. (The rules booklet might be heavier and have a higher volume than the other components combined). I can think of games that are deeper gameplay wise like Intrigue, but, disregarding its brilliance, Intrigue hardly oozes theme.


I can think of one...


We'll see where we end up. When I take it out for playtests, I carry the thing in a pretty small plastic bag. After the game, there's usually a player who expresses surprise at how much a little bag can hold, for better or worse.
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Cole Wehrle wrote:
Tigrillo wrote:
Cole Wehrle wrote:
Outside of Pax Porfiriana, I can't think of any other game that has as much thematic content as Greenland per weight. (The rules booklet might be heavier and have a higher volume than the other components combined). I can think of games that are deeper gameplay wise like Intrigue, but, disregarding its brilliance, Intrigue hardly oozes theme.


I can think of one...


We'll see where we end up. When I take it out for playtests, I carry the thing in a pretty small plastic bag. After the game, there's usually a player who expresses surprise at how much a little bag can hold, for better or worse.


While I'll be able to buy quite a few more Greenland size games, I'm over threshold for large ones, so go for it!
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