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Subject: "Hi, I want to play werewolf online." #86 - Basic Werewolf for the Rookie and the Veteran rss

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An eleven-player, low-complexity game of Werewolf!
With new rules!

Good Roles:

Seer
- Each night receives a vision of a target player and learns the players nature (Wolf/Not Wolf). The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is not a wolf. Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view. If the seer is not present / does not give an order, they will receive a random negative view out of all players who were alive after lynch.

Hunter - If only two players remain in the game and the hunter is one of those players, then the good team wins even if the other player is a werewolf. He is brutal when killed. The brutal kill is mandatory. If there is no order in modchat then it will be selected at random.

Martyr- Each night, may choose one player, and if that player is targeted for night kill, the martyr will die in his place. The martyr may choose the same person consecutively without restriction. Notice that martyr does not work to stop lynches or the brutal retaliation ability.

5 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.


Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves
- The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill. There is no kill on Night 0. If there is a werewolf alive, the last night kill order will go through - even if the last person to place a night kill order has died since the order was given. (Example: Player A and B are werewolves. Player A selects a Night Kill target during the day, but is lynched. If Player B is still alive and has not put in a more recent Night Kill order, Player A's Night Kill order will be carried out.) The werewolves are informed of the minion's identity on N0, but have no means of communicating with the minion except in-thread.
The first of the wolves is brutal and must kill another player if killed. The brutal is mandatory. If there is no order in modchat the brutal will be selected randomly from all of the non-wolves. Notice: This differs from the base P11, in that both wolves will be given a Retaliate order. Only the first one that is used is the one that will be implemented. Yes, this means it doesn't matter which werewolf is killed first.

Minion - The minion knows the identity of the werewolves and is known by them. The minion wins with them, even if dead.


Victory Conditions:

Good - All good players win if all werewolves are eliminated, or if the last two players remaining are the hunter and one werewolf.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining, evil wins. However, if one wolf is left with the hunter, then good wins.

Draw - If everyone dies, then I win and all players end in a draw. (Actually impossible in this roleset ...)


Brutal Rules:

The Brutal Kill is simultaneous to all other actions, i.e.: The Brutal Werewolf is lynched and targets the Brutal Hunter. If the Brutal Hunter's order is still on the Brutal Werewolf, there is no other death.
If the Brutal's target died BEFORE the Brutal Character, then the kill will be chosen at random.
In the endgame scenario where there is: 1 Hunter, 1 Wolf, and 1 other non-wolf (Villager, Good special, Sorcerer), and the Hunter is killed and targets the wolf, the wolf will be killed, and good wins. Parity will be checked after all processing is complete.
If the first werewolf killed does not have a brutal order in, his brutal will be a random non-wolf, as selected by Cassandra.


Lynch Rules:

Each day players vote for one player to be lynched. The player receiving the most votes is killed. If there is a tie between two or more players, the tied player with the longest held last vote is killed.

Lynch time is 3:30 PM BGG Time. Votes cast with the lynch time time-stamp are counted. Votes cast after this time are invalid. Votes made during the night phase are invalid.

All votes must conform to the Cassandra Vote Tally System rules. (Will be posted once the game starts). If all living players vote night fall it will speed up the dusk. If there is a tie in the lynch votes, it will be broken by longest held last vote.


Night Orders:

Wolves, Seer and Martyr must all submit their night orders by Dawn. Dawn will be at 4:00 PM BGG time. Players can do this by using the Cassandra Game Order system in the Cassandra Chat System. Because orders are valid through :00, dawn itself may not be posted until after :00. Please remember that patience is a virtue.

If all living players (including those with out night actions) click on the 'Lock Game Actions' button it will speed up Dawn.


Role Reveal:

All roles will be revealed on death (regardless of method)(Full Role Reveal).


Replacement / Posting Rules:

This is not a "Post For Your Life" game. However, anyone who does not communicate at least once during a Dawn - Dusk cycle will be put up for replacement. Valid communication includes:
Posting in the thread,
Talking in your Modchat in Cassandra, or
Geekmailing the moderator.
Exceptions will obviously be made for anyone that announces ahead of time that they will be away from the internet.
Players will be allowed to replace themselves (clicking on the replace icon indicates that you are near the internet - right?).

Please do not sign up for the game if you do not plan on being an active player. Thank you.
You are also required to show a proof of life prior to "12 hours before first dusk".
Please note that these are "bare minimums". The moderator has the right to hit the replace button in spite of your meeting the "one post per day" guideline if you are unresponsive to geekmails / modchat queries. This will not be done capriciously and will only be done after consultation with outside parties, to ensure objectivity.
Note that if I replace you due to lack of activity, I will not let you back into one of my Hi games until you can show in another game that you are willing to be an active member of the Village.

Please don't post after the Dusk/Dawn deadline, even if the mod has not told you to stop posting. Warnings will be given for first offences, but repeated offences might have consequences.

Making out-of-game promises to other players in order to influence their actions in a game is against the rules, so is quoting something told to you by the moderator directly from your hidden modchat, unless the rules of a game specifically say otherwise or the moderator has given you explicit permission. Paraphrasing such things is usually allowed.

Personal attacks or offensive language will merit a warning. Second offense will merit a modkill. Granted, this is subjective, so I will always get a second opinion before acting. Regardless, I'm tired of the hostility and the occasional attitude.
Police yourselves, please.


META RULES:

As this is meant to be a "learning" style game, I incorporate a number of "Meta" into the Hi series of games.
1. Brand new players will be provided the opportunity to have an in-chat advisor/mentor, who will only have as much information as the player. This other player will have read-access to the thread and can talk to them in modchat.
If you sign up for this game and would like a mentor, please geekmail me as soon as you can. Not everyone can have a mentor; final judgment is with the moderator.
Any reference to your mentor (or other people's mentors) in-game will be highly frowned upon. They are meant to provide friendly assistance and nothing more than that.

2. I will allow players to geekmail me before the game and request a role. They can do this by requesting a specific role, an alignment or "anything but".
3. There is an informal "Do Not Lynch" the newbie on D1. This is not set in stone and I am simply asking that you have good and solid reasons for lynching a brand new player on D1. Lynching a new player is not forbidden and will not be punished, but we are trying to encourage active participation and killing off newer players will discourage any expanding player base.
NOTICE
Just because a player does not have a long record on BGG/Cassy, that does not make them a "new" player.
4. Editing posts is discouraged, but in most cases, it will not elicit anything other than a "tsk, tsk" from another player. However, if you [vote nightfall] and then edit your post to cancel that vote, you will be modkilled. There are no second chances.
5. Deleting posts is considered very poor form. Unless you are deleting one of two identical posts, just let it go.
6. If you post game-changing information after the dusk/dawn time - for example, seer views, fake seer views, sorcerer views - you and a random member of your team will be modkilled. This is not negotiable.
A. This does not require the moderator to say "No posting." If dusk is at 4:00 and you post something that reflects 4:01, you are late.
B. If the moderator posts "No posting" at 4:00:15 and you post at 4:00:20, you have still posted after the no posting rule.
Accidentally continuing a conversation / posting a silly comment after the moderator has posted 'No posting' will not warrant any punishment (unless it is game-changing or repetitive).
It is YOUR responsibility to monitor for dusk/dawn.
7. I assist players in learning how to use thecassandraproject.org to moderate games. If you are interested in learning, please shoot me a geekmail.


Important Information:
Tiebreaker: longest held last vote
Lynch time: 3:30 PM BGG Time
Night Action Deadline: 4:00 PM BGG Time

Weekend Policy: This game will not run over the weekend.



Please let me know if you have any questions!

This game will start when full, but not before Hi #84 has ended.
(If everyone signed up for Hi#85 is dead in Hi #84, we can talk about starting before Hi #84 ends.)
This game will NOT start between 29 Nov and 04 Dec.

As an FYI, here's Snaak's "Guide to Playing Werewolf on BGG!" (now maintained by PeteVasi).

Here is a Dictionary of terms that are used often in our BGG WW games: /wiki/page/BGG_Werewolf_PBF_Dictionary

Here is a (not all-inclusive) list of Roles that are commonly used here on the Geek: /wiki/page/BGG_Werewolf_PBF_Role_List

BoardGameGeek and thecassandraproject both base their time functions on THIS server:
http://us.pool.ntp.org/
It doesn't account for your personal delay in posting, but it will help show you what time it is in BGG-land. Use the information as you will. (Basically, sniping is not forbidden, but if you mess it up, your team will suffer.)
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And now, with new rules!
I changed out the Cultist-Sorcerer for the Minion. Whee?

Also - more guest moderator!

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I would like to encourage everyone to use mb more.

I know that we don't like to use it while in the midst of a game, but there is no reason why a game thread that has over 60 players only has 29 mb. (I'm looking at you, Massacre).

Thumbs cost us nothing, and are a great way to say, "Thank you!" or "Great Addition to our community!" or even just "Hey, I hear you bro!"

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devil Every game should have at least the number of mb as there are players.
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We're a really supportive community. While I know we are not the For the Love forums, we can at least show the support we actually have.


In other words, read the Wolfie thread and don't be stingy with your thumbs!
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Want to join other games?
Here's my most recent advertising post.
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I just signed up on Cassandra.
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I had to lie to you because the situation called for that. I had to lie because what I would have lost with the truth I could have never got back. I had to lie.
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Digitalis, I promise not to mislynch you again!
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Hey guys, Let's have another great game! (I'm keeping an eye on you Linguist...)
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Skinny02 wrote:
Hey guys, Let's have another great game! (I'm keeping an eye on you Linguist...)
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Note: Times in OP are wrong. Times in cassy are correct.
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Skinny02 wrote:
Hey guys, Let's have another great game! (I'm keeping an eye on you Linguist...)


Inside joke from Hi 85?


Btw, I may have to drop depending on what else starts in the near future, but I'll sign up for now.
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MD1616 wrote:
Skinny02 wrote:
Hey guys, Let's have another great game! (I'm keeping an eye on you Linguist...)


Inside joke from Hi 85?


Btw, I may have to drop depending on what else starts in the near future, but I'll sign up for now.

The simple answer is yes. The long answer is that linguist faked the last werewolf's death as a "villager"
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Skinny02 wrote:
MD1616 wrote:
Skinny02 wrote:
Hey guys, Let's have another great game! (I'm keeping an eye on you Linguist...)


Inside joke from Hi 85?


Btw, I may have to drop depending on what else starts in the near future, but I'll sign up for now.

The simple answer is yes. The long answer is that linguist faked the last werewolf's death as a "villager"
Which injected drama into what would have otherwise been a ho-hum lynch. And had no effect on the game outcome. Pbbbt.

But you're welcome to keep watching.

... Are you watching closely?

Ooh! Next flavor decided!
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linguistfromhell wrote:
Skinny02 wrote:
MD1616 wrote:
Skinny02 wrote:
Hey guys, Let's have another great game! (I'm keeping an eye on you Linguist...)


Inside joke from Hi 85?


Btw, I may have to drop depending on what else starts in the near future, but I'll sign up for now.

The simple answer is yes. The long answer is that linguist faked the last werewolf's death as a "villager"
Which injected drama into what would have otherwise been a ho-hum lynch. And had no effect on the game outcome. Pbbbt.

But you're welcome to keep watching.

... Are you watching closely?

Ooh! Next flavor decided!

I'll admit that when looking back, the death post did look "off".
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ortho_ wrote:
Digitalis, I promise not to mislynch you again!

Don't worry, I'm sure she'll be evil this time, so it won't happen.
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Or ortho will be, and it will be a deliberate mislynch.
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DeMorcerf wrote:
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Digitalis, I promise not to mislynch you again!

Don't worry, I'm sure she'll be evil this time, so it won't happen.


I know, I immediately thought of the scenario where Digitalis is evil and I refuse to lynch her and lose town the game.

How bout this: Digitalis, I will not vote to lynch you D1 no matter what. If you roll into the thread, blatantly admit to being a wolf, and spend all of D1 talking about how delicious villagers are, my response will be, "somewhat worrisome, but I'll need to hear a little more from Digitalis to be sure."
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Well, now I have to do that.
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I just signed up on Cassandra.
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Digitalis wrote:
Well, now I have to do that.

I agree, you should really do that. See what happens.
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Time to snipe the seer again devil
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Royal seems UTR to me...
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Skinny02 wrote:
Royal seems UTR to me...


I'm busy being OTR in games I'm alive in
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RoyalApe wrote:
Skinny02 wrote:
Royal seems UTR to me...


I'm busy being OTR in games I'm alive in

Just joking, not worried about it until the game starts.
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Skinny02 wrote:
RoyalApe wrote:
Skinny02 wrote:
Royal seems UTR to me...


I'm busy being OTR in games I'm alive in

Just joking, not worried about it until the game starts.


I know. FWIW, for some people being UTR is definitely an evil tell, for others I don't think it is.

I tend to think that I stay on the radar based on my available time, not on my alignment.

Figure I had better make that argument now while you might believe me
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