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So should I let myself be dragged to the NINE hour wow Hobbit movie marathon with my kids tomorrow?

I know I'll enjoy the viewing part of the experience. I've enjoyed the first two nutty, fan-faction, who-knows-what-kind-of-crazy-stuff-Jackson-will-add, Rhosgbel rabbit racing films.

My concern is the physical effects on my aging body. I remember thinking my seat was getting uncomfortable at the end of the 3hrs in the first one.

Update: So went had a good time and it was no big deal on the body. Enough time between movies to get up walk around a bit, strech the kinks out of the neck etc.
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Go for it.
I did the 13h LOTR movies at the theatre. First two extended cuts followed by the premiere of RoTK.
That was 10 years ago though. You really get your moneys worth on free refills of pop and popcorn. I do remember getting sick right after though.
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Uhhh...get up more often?

I mean, if you've seen 2 of the 3 already, shouldn't be too hard to figure out when to take 'bathroom breaks' and not miss anything interesting. (Although, even if you would, you have seen it before, so...)

And for the third movie...well, there's always this for the old folks. whistle
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Do it. Last year, my kids and I sat through the entire LotR Extended Edition trilogy. That was 13 hours. And I'll be 50 next week.
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That app is funny.

We did 13h LOTR one Thanksgiving at home. Don't think The kids or I could last that long in a theater...we'll do the Hobbit marathon at home too when the blu-rays come out.

What I would like to be able to do is see movies like that at midnight opening day, but 10 years later harder to do that now
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I still haven't seen the second one. You could really see Peter Jackson strain to stretch out the material to the unnecessarily long run time that I felt worn down (and not in the good way) at the end.

Knowing that about me, is the second one worth it? Does it improve things at all, or does it still feel bloated and padded on?
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erak wrote:
Knowing that about me, is the second one worth it? Does it improve things at all, or does it still feel bloated and padded on?
Nope. Second is still bloated & padded & a pale imitation of how good the LotR movies were.
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erak wrote:
I still haven't seen the second one. You could really see Peter Jackson strain to stretch out the material to the unnecessarily long run time that I felt worn down (and not in the good way) at the end.

Knowing that about me, is the second one worth it? Does it improve things at all, or does it still feel bloated and padded on?


You would probably find the second movie even less enjoyable than the first. By watching the extras on the extended DVD you realize that when they made the move from 2 to 3 movies they had to write a whole new climax scene to end the 2nd film. In the original 2 film scheme the escape from mirkwood was the action climax of that film. So they on the fly drafted the whole Dwarves/vs/Smaug in Erebor thing as the "action-climax" they feel they needed for the second film.

Having said that. The Bilbo/Smaug dialogue scenes are really great. Good actors with good dialogue. So maybe you just want to rent it and fast fwd anytime someone is running or fighting.
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I liked the addition of Gandalf confronting Sauron. It helped explain why Gandalf just up and left everyone right before the entered the most treacherous part of their journey.
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Can I love the books but find the movies "sleep worthy?"

Oh, yes, go to the movies but bring a pillow and warm blanket, and maybe a sleep mask and ear plugs. You can take cat naps between the fluff.....OR you could just wake a few minutes every couple of hours to see the good stuff!?
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The first movie, to me, was tolerable. Yes, it was padded out with un-needed fluff, but it was still not a terrible movie. I will say it could have done without the added "we need action!! OMG!!1!" bits.

The second movie pissed me off. Half of the runtime is devoted to straight-from-a-video-game action crap. We need orcs shooting at the barrels... for some reason! We need Legolas! We need a love story crammed in there that adds NOTHING to the story! We need to see the dwarves running around fighting the dragon! Giant gold statue!!!!! Weeeeeeee!!!! Honestly, the second movie could be cut down to about half an hour and I would probably be okay with that.
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To me the extended cut of the first Hobbit movie is the best of Jackson's Tolkien movies while the second is the worst. Drew pretty much summed up why I don't like No. 2. I don't mind Jackson taking liberties with the book, it's a different medium, after all. But the second one really screwed up the timing. And yeah, those two long action sequences are terrible. Coming from one who did mostly enjoy the added action sequences in the first one.
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Well nine hours later, I'm glad we did it. Was surprised how much I really enjoyed seeing the first two again especially back to back. So much of the response to these movies is an internal comparing with the book, and evaluating how you feel about this or that change. Once you've processed all that in previous viewings you can now just sit back and enjoy it as film.

Third movie didn't disappoint.
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Though it has some really long extended fight scenes, which, while certainly expected in the Battle of Five Armies, tends away from what I enjoy the most in the movies, which is good character dialogue. There are plenty of well done scenes, just about 45 minutes too much action/battle sequences for my particular tastes.


Seeing them all together was a neat experience. Really for all its flaws and changes, Jackson did deliver a beautiful fleshed out rendering of a classic tale, and I'm glad he came back to take us to Middle-earth twice
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Glad you had a good time!

We are planning on watching the last movie, but the only way I've been able to enjoy them is to consider them "inspired by" the book instead of based on it.
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Well, buckle yourself in, Daisy May, it's time for the 72 part adaptation of The Silmarillion!

Full disclosure? I have no damn idea how to say "silmarillion." Is the first "L" silent, are the last two a "ya" sound like in Spanish? Short or long "a?" I need some help, folks.
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The third movie was the worst imho.
The first was fine,
the second was not as good as the first one, but still tolerable. It was pretty cool to see Smaug on the big screen.
The last movie was a mess. Even the title is wrong: It's supposed to be
"The Battle of Five Armies", not
"The Battle of the Five Armies". It just looks weird.

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- The death of Smaug was an intro. (seriously, he dies before the title shows.)
- Instead of showing us the actual Battle of Five Armies, we get too much one-on-one duelling.
- Beorn is reduced to 5 seconds of screen time. (Supposedly, there's more of him in the Extended Edition)
- Too many scenes of Alfrid just to remind us that he's a jerk.
- The Tauriel story turns out to not add anything.
- A few years ago, we were told that it would also be a bridge movie leading into Fellowship of the Ring. (Scenes with Aragorn and Gollum and stuff) We got nothing of that, except Strider being mentioned at the end.

The whole things looks chaotic and gabbled together. It's like PJ almost forgot to put in the eagles.
The Hobbit trilogy is by far not as good as the Lord of the Rings trilogy. By far.

I would love a 72 part Silmarillion, btw!
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Well, buckle yourself in, Daisy May, it's time for the 72 part adaptation of The Silmarillion!

Full disclosure? I have no damn idea how to say "silmarillion." Is the first "L" silent, are the last two a "ya" sound like in Spanish? Short or long "a?" I need some help, folks.

It's pronounced like the band Marillion.
"sil-mah-ril-jun"
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Anfauglir wrote:
The third movie was the worst imho.


I would agree with this and almost all of the negatives you put in your spoiler box.

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Especialy that Alfred added nothing to the film and got way too much screen time.

I did enjoy the scenes of parlay at the gate and Bilbo in the Woodelves tent with the Arkenstone
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