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ROB VERRY
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Is there a scenario that has a special rule that models the use of Bazookas and such? If so, could someone kindly guide me to which (if any). Thanks in advance.
 
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Not that I know about, but there is nothing to stop you to create an RSG and come up with your own Bazooka rule.
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There's one that has Piats. They even made custom counters in C3i.
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I have them :D:D:D
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Malacandra wrote:
There's one that has Piats. They even made custom counters in C3i.


I believe that's CC:M scenario 17 - "Little Stalingrad", where PIATs were used for mouseholing (?).

EDIT: Dim memory was correct. Satchel charges are used to simulate them:

https://boardgamegeek.com/article/10162413#10162413

I think there's also scenario or two in the Stalingrad battlepack (which I don't have) where there are pseudo-Panzerfausts?


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See http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/900788/alternative-weapons-c...
 
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Quoted from the above link
RPardoe wrote:


In Scenario 11, the American OOB has 2 Satchel Charges and includes SSR#4 indicating these represent captured German panzerfausts. The counters in C3i have Satchel Charge stats, but the picture of a panzerfaust.

In Scenario 17, same thing. The British OOB has Satchel Charges and includes SSR#1 indicating these represent PIATs.
 
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That's odd. They are given only a range of 1 hex (30 meters). And no, they were used against targets other than tanks like pillboxes, caves, artillery/AT guns and soft targets behind hard cover like stone buildings/walls, so are very relevant weapons for CC. Anyhoo, here's the ranges I have:
1. M9/M9A1 Bazooka 110m, or 3 hexes.
2. Panzerfaust 60 (Most common version) 60m, or 2 hexes.
3. PIAT 90m, or 3 hexes.
4. Panzerschreck 150m, or 5 hexes.
I guess I will forge ahead and paste up my own counters, using the ranges above in scenarios where they were used in non-AFV engagements.
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Rob, this isn't the first time you've brought up the "odd" lack of anti-tank weaponry in CC: see this thread from 3 years ago.

In that one you mentioned you were making your own counters. What ever became of that endeavor?
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This is all very timely actually because the "Red Sector A" scenario in the Tournament BP has panzerfausts. ninja
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Chad Jensen wrote:
Rob, this isn't the first time you've brought up the "odd" lack of anti-tank weaponry in CC: see this thread from 3 years ago.

In that one you mentioned you were making your own counters. What ever became of that endeavor?


I went ahead and designed, tested and pasted them up and they worked just fine - I researched each weapon and used what I had in ASL as a guide. Yes, that was three years ago, I was just wondering if anything had officially been done with this by you since. How about a smallish expansion, or pack that adds these counters and accompanying scenarios that highlight their use? I would slap my hard earned cash down for that without question! Anyhoo, like most gamers, I like to tinker, but always feel odd about it - like I'm breaking the rules, or unbalancing the game. I did see the counters that came in the magazine, but was totally unaware they existed and after looking them over noticed their effective ranges were all wrong. I do strongly feel that CC should remain an Infantry-only game, but the inclusion of Hand-held AT weapons would be really cool
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NinetySixer wrote:
This is all very timely actually because the "Red Sector A" scenario in the Tournament BP has panzerfausts. ninja


Really? Where are the scenarios?
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Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:
NinetySixer wrote:
This is all very timely actually because the "Red Sector A" scenario in the Tournament BP has panzerfausts. ninja


Really? Where are the scenarios?


You have to preorder them. Or buy them when they're published.
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