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Eric T
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I've checked out the sites for both, still not sure how they are used?? Yes, I'm an idiot, but can how do you use it, meaning, how do you take your boardgame and transfer it to either, I play solo alot and sometimes would help if I could use the maps and counter's of games on my laptop as my room is tight with a 1-1/2 year old runnin' around, any info would be great.
 
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I can only speak for VASSAL as I haven't used Cyberboard, but I think it is the same.

There is a module that you load. This module will contain an image for them map and images for the counters. You can move the counters where ever you want on the map. The module doesn't help with the rules or validating moves or anything. It is just there to help play a boardgame online.
 
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Cyberboard is basically just a virtual copy of your physical pieces and charts and whatnot. You can roll dice, etc. You can send files to other people and you can play a game with them if you trust them not to cheat with it. Or you could just use the virtual board to play the game with yourself to save space, as you said.

Vassal is an online system where you can play in realtime with someone else. Cyberboard is not real time; you send files back and forth. With Vassal you play in real time, move pieces, roll dice, etc. Also, I *think* you can play non-realtime with Vassal and pick a turn up anytime, I don't remember.

You can get different boards and games for cyberboard. You supply the rules, and you can play with the virtual pieces. Vassal also has a number of plugins for different games.
 
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I've just started digging into these as well.

If there is already a cyberboardgamebox or vassal module for a game that you're interestd in then, yes you can use either program to simulate the board, bits, etc.

These programs are just substitutes for the game components themselves so if you're actually looking for a computer AI to play against then look elsewhere. It's also completely up to you to know and enforce the rules.

Now if the game you'd really like to have there hasn't been converted. IMO many of these projects are labors of love. Be prepared to spend some time on creating the gamebox or module before being able to use it.
 
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garysax wrote:

Vassal is an online system where you can play in realtime with someone else. Cyberboard is not real time; you send files back and forth. With Vassal you play in real time, move pieces, roll dice, etc.


Vassal will allow a Play-by-Email format similar to Cyberboard although that's not it's strong suit.
 
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Thank you all for helping on how it works, it really helped me out!

 
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Regarding Vassal:

clandaith wrote:
... You can move the counters where ever you want on the map.


Are piece images allowed to overlap? Are pieces allowed to occupy more than one location on the board? Thanks
 
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Oh yeah, and does Vassal have a snap to grid feature for placing pieces?
 
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Are people happy with Vassal/Cyberboard? I've been thinking about writing something myself. Something like Vassal but with a rules engine as well. Is there any interest in this? What improvements could be made to Vassal/Cyberboard?
 
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Zillions of Games at http://www.zillionsofgames.com/ not only has a rules engine, but its own scripting language for defining a game. Well over a thousand games have been submitted and are available for free download on their website. The downloads are free, but you have to pay to be able to use them. There is a free demo with dozens of preinstalled games, mostly abstracts such as chess variants and puzzles. You can play all those games against the computer for free. But to use any of the downloadable packages, or to play over the Net, you have to buy the registration key.

Zillions is NOT a server, but two people could meet on the Net, for example using MSN messenger, and start a game. MSN messenger integrates with Zillions, (or at least, it did the last time I checked,) so you don't have to type in an IP address.

If you're not particularly into abstracts, I don't recommend you buy it. But it might help anyone who wants to write their own rules engine. The source code is not available, but an examination of the scripting language could prove useful.
 
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What level of programming knowledge is needed to transfere a game to VASSAL?
 
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twixter wrote:
Oh yeah, and does Vassal have a snap to grid feature for placing pieces?


Yes (and yes to the earlier question also). Its up to how you define the counters interactions - both are possible/interchangeable depending on placement/location
 
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Since I'm not above a shameless plug of my own software, the gatlingEngine at CCG Workshop (http://www.ccgworkshop.com) also supports a rules engine.

Its library is mainly CCGs but there are board and card games offered there as well. New developers are always welcome. For some reason it's usually overlooked by this community, probably because of its CCG origins...
 
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marqzen wrote:
What level of programming knowledge is needed to transfere a game to VASSAL?


None - but it doesnt hurt if you want to add custom java classes

Competency in graphics programs is a plus though if you want to avoid using scans of original stuff

All traits and functions are defined in the help files and a yahoo group exists for tech / mod building / feature requests support

 
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