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I'm a little unclear on how the machines are drawn at the beginning of the turn. Could someone explain how this works?

Does each person only take from their own pile? It sounds like you take your top machine and then either keep or discard it. How does this lead to the "speed," "rush" and "grabbing" aspects I've seen mentioned?

I also don't understand about revealing a machine with one hand and choosing with another.

I looked on the publisher's site but didn't see any rules to download....
 
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The game was explained to me at the booth this way. THere is a speed aspect to drawing the machines at the start of each round. Each player turns over a random tile at the same time. With the other hand, players may then grab the tile they want. The trick is if you grab too fast and cannot use the tile you grabbed, you are penalized $5 (VP) for it. If you are the last to get a tile, you do not have to use the tile and are not penalized if you don't use. Hope that helps. Great game if you like puzzles.
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cull wrote:
I'm a little unclear on how the machines are drawn at the beginning of the turn. Could someone explain how this works?

Does each person only take from their own pile? It sounds like you take your top machine and then either keep or discard it. How does this lead to the "speed," "rush" and "grabbing" aspects I've seen mentioned?

I also don't understand about revealing a machine with one hand and choosing with another.

I looked on the publisher's site but didn't see any rules to download....


For machines, there is no "my pile" or "your pile". There is just a common pile of face down machines. You each take one machine from the common pile and place it conveniently in the middle of the table without revealing what it is. All players then flip over a machine at the same time with their "flipping" hand. You may then attempt to grab one machine using your "grabbing" hand. That's where the speed part comes in.
 
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cull wrote:
Does each person only take from their own pile?

No, you reveal from "your own pile" but may grab any face-up machine on the table. So, you will have 4 (in a 4-player) game machines revealed and you can grab any - that is the speed, rush, grab aspect of the game. You switch hands as you can't quickly grab your own machine (your hand would have a head start compared to the other players).

The reason each player has "their own pile" is two-fold in my mind:

(1) It allows for a near simultaneous reveal of all the machines for the round.

(2) Each pile nicely acts as a round counter. When the stacks are empty, the game is over.

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RPardoe wrote:
cull wrote:
Does each person only take from their own pile?

No, you reveal from "your own pile" but may grab any face-up machine on the table. So, you will have 4 (in a 4-player) game machines revealed and you can grab any - that is the speed, rush, grab aspect of the game. You switch hands as you can't quickly grab your own machine (your hand would have a head start compared to the other players).

The reason each player has "their own pile" is two-fold in my mind:

(1) It allows for a near simultaneous reveal of all the machines for the round.

(2) Each pile nicely acts as a round counter. When the stacks are empty, the game is over.



I'll have to go home and re-read the rules as I don't recall there being separate piles.

I don't see how having separate piles is a requisite for the simultaneous revealing of tiles. If you have a common pile, then each player takes one from the pile and prepares to flip it. On the count of 3, they flip simultaneously. What's the difference?

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I just checked the rules. In the English version of the rules, under Preparation, it reads, "Mix the 48 machine tiles. Select 10 times the number of players and make it one pile, face down. Put the remaining machine tiles unseen back in the box."

As I suspected, there is no "my pile" or "your pile". There is just the one pile. Each player selects one and they are flipped face up simultaneously.
 
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