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Jeremy Ruiz
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My gaming group and myself love Agricola. I am looking for a game which is similar, yet more complex.

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Caverna: The Cave Farmers (a.k.a Agricola 2.0) is what comes to mind the most for me. Same designer, same basic concept, but with layers added on top and what some consider to be improved gameplay.
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Caverna is really the obvious one to check out since like was said, it is Agricola 2.0. You might be interested in the game Terra Mystica which is a euro with high complexity. Le Havre is another euro game by the designer of Agricola you might like to look into.
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+1 Terra Mystica. It is not all that similar to Agricola, but those are my two favourite heavy Euros, with Terra Mystica taking the cake.
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The problem you may find with Caverna is that it's actually not more complex, as you request. I think Agricola presents a bigger challenge and a more stressful, complex game over all. For a more complex Agricola, consider adding Agricola: Farmers of the Moor.

For a more complex worker-placement game, check out Dominant Species, Florenza, and Russian Railroads.

For a more complex Euro (non worker-placement), check out Terra Mystica, Brass: Lancashire, Kemet, Trajan, and Keyflower.

For a great dice-manipulation game, check out Troyes.
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Caverna is pretty streamlined so I'm not really sure it is heavier than Agricola. Kemet and Keyflower are not heavy games as they are weighted in the range of medium weight games. If you want a brain burn, you would look at more games like Kanban: Driver's Edition.
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thedacker wrote:
The problem you may find with Caverna is that it's actually not more complex, as you request. I think Agricola presents a bigger challenge and a more stressful, complex game over all. For a more complex Agricola, consider adding Agricola: Farmers of the Moor.

For a more complex worker-placement game, check out Dominant Species, Florenza, and Russian Railroads.

For a more complex Euro (non worker-placement), check out Terra Mystica, Brass: Lancashire, Kemet, Trajan, and Keyflower.

For a great dice-manipulation game, check out Troyes.


Kemet is great but its a completely different itch. Its got card-based combat and direct player conflict. Highly recommended, but a completely different sort of game from the heavy euros you're looking for. Its like a euro influenced combat game.
 
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At the Gates of Loyang

Look no further than this game. It is my FAVORITE. a true 10 and a great corrolation to agricola ish games.
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Myrmes. The feeding your family(/colony) mechanic is similar, but its primary form of resource/point management is focused around area control. It's like Agricola with a bigger focus on spatial elements.
 
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thedacker wrote:
The problem you may find with Caverna is that it's actually not more complex, as you request. I think Agricola presents a bigger challenge and a more stressful, complex game over all. For a more complex Agricola, consider adding Agricola: Farmers of the Moor.

For a more complex worker-placement game, check out Dominant Species, Florenza, and Russian Railroads.

For a more complex Euro (non worker-placement), check out Terra Mystica, Brass: Lancashire, Kemet, Trajan, and Keyflower.

For a great dice-manipulation game, check out Troyes.

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I'm a huge Agricola fan, especially with the Agricola: Farmers of the Moor expansion. I also love Duel of Ages II, especially with the Duel of Ages II: Master Set. So I think Duel of Ages II might be the right game for you!
 
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I'm gonna add The Castles of Burgundy. Mostly because everyone I've shown the game to who enjoyed Agricola loved it.
 
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Caverna could be the game to get, but it could also be a disappointment, as it is pretty similiar to Agricola and definitly not cheap (you might spend a lot of money without getting a really new gaming experience).

Complex, good Euros about building up your own tiny stuff on your tableau:
* Russian Railroads
* Castles of Burgundy
* Puerto Rico (more interactive)

Games on one board:
* Terra Mystica
* Village (same theme as agricola)
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Jeremy Ruiz
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matthean wrote:
Caverna is pretty streamlined so I'm not really sure it is heavier than Agricola. Kemet and Keyflower are not heavy games as they are weighted in the range of medium weight games. If you want a brain burn, you would look at more games like Kanban: Driver's Edition.



I have had my eye Kandban! I love the theme. The tricky part would be convincing other players (i.e. the wife) that this would be fun.


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I wouldn't say Caverna is more complex than Agricola...but a lot more fun for me.

If you want a brain-burner, try CO₂.

Other games to try:
Power Grid
Eclipse
Clash of Cultures


 
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Snowdonia is a game that shares some of the main mechanisms with Agricola...it has worker placement, and throughout the game you will be acquiring cards which garner you points when certain conditions are met, (instead of getting the cards all at the beginning of the game as in Agricola).

Certain abilities are dynamically tied with weather changes, and with everyone 'building' the same line, (railroad), what you do, and what others do, effects everyone else...and sometimes in a good way.

It is a marvelous game.

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winterplum wrote:

Snowdonia is a game that shares some of the main mechanisms with Agricola...it has worker placement, and throughout the game you will be acquiring cards which garner you points when certain conditions are met, (instead of getting the cards all at the beginning of the game as in Agricola).

Certain abilities are dynamically tied with weather changes, and with everyone 'building' the same line, (railroad), what you do, and what others do, effects everyone else...and sometimes in a good way.

It is a marvelous game.



I have Snowdonia!! However i have only played solo. I do like the "fulfilling contracts" aspect of the game which has led me to looking into Merkator, also a Uwe game.

Thanks for your input
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groggycarpet wrote:
My gaming group and myself love Agricola. I am looking for a game which is similar, yet more complex.

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This is a tough one. If 2 player only were an option, I would say Fields of Arle. It is definitely similar but slightly more complex I would say.

If you are really looking for increased complexity, you should check out some of the games from What's Your Game? such as Vinhos maybe.

Finally, although it's not really more complex than Agricola, Glass Road sometimes feels more complex to me due to the way the resource/production wheels work. It is a superbly designed game and a lot of fun to play in my opinion!
 
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groggycarpet wrote:
My gaming group and myself love Agricola. I am looking for a game which is similar, yet more complex.

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At the Gates of Loyang
Keyflower
Eclipse
Puerto Rico
The Manhattan Project
Glass Road
Spyrium
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