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Subject: What is the point of playing an asset face down. rss

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David Folksman
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As the thread title states, playing an asset face down immediately causes everyone at the table to accuse you of being the mole, and you more than likely are, because why would you just reveal the asset if you were not?

Any thoughts on this?

I really like the game, it's just the strategy of it is a bit mind boggling to us at the moment.
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Dana R.
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Activating them makes them vulnerable and could be lost is one reason. And they are VP's so I would assume keeping that information secret could be an asset especially towards end of game.

Still waiting on game, these are assumptions.
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Indeed, you are only required to burn active assets. If you don't want to use the asset yet, keep it face down.
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Strategy-wise though, I agree. Every Asset has an advantage it gives, and I haven't seen a situation yet where I would want to go turns without using that advantage.

Maybe I just need to play it more...
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Thanks for your replies.

yes I have not come across a situation where any of our players felt the need to keep an asset hidden. VP's or not, the use of an asset outweighs the advantage of keeping that information concealed. If you are the mole and want to hide Brody for example, you immediately bring suspicion on yourself in doing so.

I think the strategy in this game goes very deep, which is good!

For example, I tried to play in the last turn of the game, very suspicious, because I knew that i could be accused wrongly of being the mole (i was a loyal agent), and the other person would get -3vp.

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Keeping Assets facedown protects them from the Fallout of a certain Threats that the Analysts fail to neutralize. Assets are worth Victory Points, so players may want to keep them hidden in a tight game. Also, if you are a Loyal Agent, having other players think you may be a Mole could cost them Victory Points at the end.
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Also - some Assets steal other Assets (I believe you can take Brodie with his wife, and a few other situations), so you could keep them face down to keep another player from stealing your asset.
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After now having played the game, it seems to me that the default state for most assets *should* be face down. You activate the agent when the board situation is such that the asset can have an impact. Many times the board state is such that your asset's ability does not have an immediate impact. Don't then reveal them early and risk losing them before they can be used!

+ 2 against orgs of a certain type, and none are on the board and/or near analysis? Keep hidden!

Recruit from discarded assets and none are yet discarded? Keep hidden!

Immune to fallout from your cases and you are not analyzing for 2 rounds? Keep hidden!

I think I recruited a total of 5 assets in my first game yesterday, and in 4 of the 5 cases there would have been no immediate impact if I activated them in the same turn I recruited them. Why flip face up until you need to?

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stephen biggs
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Two reasons:

1) Most high VP assets can be stolen. Keeping them face down prevents that. Basically you should judge if the asset is worth more in VP's than it's ability.

2) Challenging the terrorist player at game end is only worth the gamble if you need the extra VP. A face down asset can cause other players to misjudge the VP position.
e.g I ended last game with 19VP. the player I suspected of being the Mole had 18vp(as mole) Challenging him and being wrong would have cost me a certain win. So I didn't risk the challenge. If he'd had a face down asset I may have needed to gamble on the challenge.
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